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Re: How many Morris Minors are left ?.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:02 pm
by Dean
rayofleamington wrote:
At some point there'll be a tailing off of the number of Minors found in barns and old garages, and the number scrapped won't tail off for a long while so I'd bet good money that the numbers will dwindle significantly. Whether this is happening already is hard to say.
When we have supposed "Morris Minor Enthusiasts" willing to strip restorable cars for parts beyond the point of return... yes the number will fall very sharply. Buying second hand parts on ebay will just encourage this kind of business especially when parts are available new. OK we can argue the "quality" of parts issue, but we really aren't helping the Minors survival at all.

Re: How many Morris Minors are left ?.

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:00 pm
by aupickup
well i would much rather have good used parts than rubbish repro stuff

Re: How many Morris Minors are left ?.

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:21 pm
by Dean
aupickup wrote:well i would much rather have good used parts than rubbish repro stuff
Unfortunately rendering the humble moggy to an earlier grave than is necessary.

Re: How many Morris Minors are left ?.

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:24 pm
by aupickup
well not really if the parts come from cars that are just to scrappy to repair

Re: How many Morris Minors are left ?.

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:52 pm
by Dean
Of course Au, I entirely agree. :D I just get the feeling sometimes that line is broken as breaking a car for it's parts will re-coupe a financial reward. The thing is also you may be buying re-production from a breaker not necessarily BMC stuff. :wink: I also feel some new people to the scene aren't aware of the new parts supply.

Re: How many Morris Minors are left ?.

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:58 pm
by aupickup
yes i agree with what you say as well :D :D

luckily i have enough new old stock parts to see me through my driving life time now :D :D

Re: How many Morris Minors are left ?.

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:44 pm
by Rasputin
aupickup wrote:yes i agree with what you say as well :D :D

luckily i have enough new old stock parts to see me through my driving life time now :D :D

You must be planning to drive until you`re 150 Dennis :wink:

Re: How many Morris Minors are left ?.

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:51 am
by ASL642
And a really big shed to store them in. :lol:

Re: How many Morris Minors are left ?.

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:51 pm
by faversham999
You cant force Minors on people when to many get scraped and more people want them than cars avalible the few left will be saved . I have a Fiat 500 they are worth money in any condition, this started happening about 2002 and over 4 million of them were made. Mabe in a few years the moggie will get to that stage.

Re: How many Morris Minors are left ?.

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:24 pm
by aupickup
well i may need them for another car :D :D

Re: How many Morris Minors are left ?.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:32 pm
by Courthouse/Tom
So to sum it up in 3 words,"we dont know". :roll:[frame]Image[/frame]

Re: How many Morris Minors are left ?.

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:26 pm
by MarkyB
We are not the first to have though of an FOI request;
https://owa.gre.ac.uk/owa/redir.aspx?C= ... ming-69890
A Triumph Spitfire owner beat us to it.
However their database isn't set up to be searched by make/model so it might be up to some larger organisation to pay for such a search to be set up and tested.
£900 isn't a fortune, maybe the FBHVC or similar could fund it and make the results available to owners clubs for a "nominal" fee.
I'll copy the results of the Freedom of information request for Spitfires to save link clicking.

I can confirm that DVLA holds information falling within the description specified in your
request.


However, we estimate that the cost of collating the information would exceed the appropriate
limit of £600. Under Section 12 of the FOI Act DVLA is not obliged to comply with a
request where the cost of determining whether we hold the information, locating, retrieving
and extracting that information exceeds £600. This amount equates to 3.5 days worth of work
and is provided for in the Freedom of Information and Data Protection (Appropriate Limit
and Fees) Regulations 2004.

Our IT supplier would do the bulk of this work and based on previous work an indicative
example would take around 3 man days to determine, locate, retrieve and extract the
information requested. However, DVLA would be charged £600 per day for that work that
would involve writing, testing, scheduling and running the query. Therefore the cost will be
above the appropriate limit as described above.

However, DVLA has commercial selling agents to whom we sell anonymised data. They may
be able to help you with your request. I have provided a list of them at Appendix A. There
will probably be a charge for any data they supply.

If you are unhappy with the decisions made by this Agency in relation to your request, you
may ask for an internal review.

Re: How many Morris Minors are left ?.

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:51 pm
by new_adventures_of_arthur
Now THAT is an answer! :D

Re: How many Morris Minors are left ?.

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:53 pm
by MarkyB
I wonder how much anonymised data would cost if one was only interested in pre 1973 cars?
A quick search suggest there were 26,208,000. cars on the road in 2006!

Re: How many Morris Minors are left ?.

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:57 pm
by faversham999
There are 26 MILLION registered cars on the road here in the U.K
So I think pre 1973 cars are just a pain to the DVLA :(

Re: How many Morris Minors are left ?.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:58 am
by Courthouse/Tom
There cant be many in Coventry,in the past year i've only seen 2.

Re: How many Morris Minors are left ?.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:35 am
by ASL642
There are actually quite a few! Contact Coventry & District Branch email kent67 at yahoo dot co.uk They meet at the Jaguar Social Club, Browns Lane Coventry. or PM rayofleamington on this site who is the chairman :D They are probably still hiding in their garages as the rally season doesn't really start until April.

Re: How many Morris Minors are left ?.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:20 pm
by rayofleamington
They are probably still hiding in their garages as the rally season doesn't really start until April.
I'm not hiding anywhere!! 8)

I guess there's a lot of Minors in garages though - not so many people parking them in the street these days unless they have no choice. Classic cars do seem to attract vandals :(
I live about 5 miles from cov and there are 2 other Minors within a street of me (excluding mine). Since the van was on the drive I've had 4 enquires about selling it - so they don't just attract bad attention :D

Re: How many Morris Minors are left ?.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:45 pm
by ASL642
I meant the cars not you! :lol:

Re: How many Morris Minors are left ?.

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:38 am
by Fingolfin
As was earlier suggested when someone mentioned exports from the UK, a proper Morris Minor Census needs to be global. That may be plausible in twenty years' time, when every person in the world is on Facebook and the relevant users have dozens of photos a piece of their restos, but for now it'd be very difficult without extraordinarily deep pockets and a worldwide ad campaign.

I seem to recall going through this once before...where were my estimates?

EDIT. AHA! Here we go. http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f= ... a&start=15 :lol: