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Re remote deadlock
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:36 am
by mstevens
Hi can you give me some idea of the size of the mounting plate. that you mount the door bolt and and other bits on.
Thanks
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:53 pm
by new_adventures_of_arthur
This is class.
And discreet too.
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:23 pm
by MarkyB
I had a play with the set I bought recently.
The pull and push on these units is quite strong and fast but once they have pulled (or pushed) they are in "neutral" and not much pressure will return them to the other position.
So if you were thinking of having them acting against a spring, the spring is likely to return them in the direction the spring is acting.
This could be fun acting on one door that had a spring on the locating pin so it would pop open.
I also looked for any pulses on the wires for the over ride switch but there weren't any.
However a wire from any of the units would carry a 12 volt pulse so could be used to flash the indicators.
I made a film of it on my phone but the file needs to be converted to another format to be playable anywhere else.
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:48 pm
by linearaudio
The idea of shooting a bolt with these "motors" is that no springs are needed or, indeed, wanted. The force of trying to open the door is taken on the side of the bolt, the motor just determines whether that bolt is in(unlocked) or out (locked).
I've lost the template for the mounting panel, but the motors are all very similar size, just get a locking kit and a couple of small bathroom door bolts and you will immediately see the scale of things! At a guess, the panel is around 6" x 3".
As I posted earlier- a couple of cheap relays would sort the indicator flashing out, but then you are getting into "poseur" territory

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:54 am
by MarkyB
Curses, so having the car play a small "Taa Daa" fanfare is out then

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:48 pm
by linearaudio
MarkyB wrote:Curses, so having the car play a small "Taa Daa" fanfare is out then

No, no!!
If you want that, I can send you a circuit diagram, also would need to be linked to a neon array under the car, and preferably a white ice set-up, nicely understated!
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:01 am
by edjones
linearaudio wrote:As I posted earlier- a couple of cheap relays would sort the indicator flashing out, but then you are getting into "poseur" territory

Sorry, saw your post on that after I'd asked the question
Any chance of an eBay link to the kit you bought?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:08 am
by MarkyB
Smartly crossing the border out of "poseur" territory

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How are you running the wires into the doors?
This can be problematic even on cars with electrics in the doors from new.
Re: Remote deadlock central locking!
Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 11:24 pm
by callyspoy
Hi folks, i saved this as a link as i liked the idea so much. just been looking through my saved "tabs" and found it.
just thought i would say...
I have just bought a Triumph Herald estate and guess what holds the back seat back rest up in place...yep, domestic style locks.
so there you go, car manufacturers did use such things!
pointless fact!
Re: Remote deadlock central locking!
Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:14 am
by alex_holden
callyspoy wrote:I have just bought a Triumph Herald estate and guess what holds the back seat back rest up in place...yep, domestic style locks.
Like the two bolts on the Traveller back seat?
Re: Remote deadlock central locking!
Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 6:54 pm
by linearaudio
Doh.....

Re: Remote deadlock central locking!
Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:04 pm
by MarkyB
Yale locks on Post Office vans?
Re: Remote deadlock central locking!
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:26 am
by mollythemoggie
Hi guys,
alas in australia it is a requirement that with central locking installed you still need to be able to mechanically open the door from the inside.. how would you get around that using this setup? cheers,
Tom
Re: Remote deadlock central locking!
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:01 am
by linearaudio
mollythemoggie wrote:Hi guys,
alas in australia it is a requirement that with central locking installed you still need to be able to mechanically open the door from the inside.. how would you get around that using this setup? cheers,
Tom
Easy! Button on dashboard connecting power to lock "open" circuit!
Re: Remote deadlock central locking!
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:08 am
by bmcecosse
" mechanically open the door from the inside " - so - no buttons or electricity............
Re: Remote deadlock central locking!
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:26 pm
by linearaudio
bmcecosse wrote:" mechanically open the door from the inside " - so - no buttons or electricity............
Oops! I'll think on that! Should be able to access the opening mechanism nearer the lock and leave the inside handle working, but I didn't do it that way as A/ It was very simple to fit as I did it, and B/ The idea of a thief getting in through a broken window, then finding he can't get out again except the same way, sort of appealed somehow.......
Re: Remote deadlock central locking!
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:27 pm
by MarkyB
Tough job to mix dead bolts and easy escape in case of electrical breakdown as it's going to tend to defeat the idea of keeping the doors locked until you choose to unlock them.
How about some Bowden cable with a ring on one end connected to the dead bolt and the latch such that a pull on it will cause the door to open?
If the ring is mounted quite low and not marked EMERGENCY EXIT it could just work.
Re: Remote deadlock central locking!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:41 pm
by A-Series Spares
OK, so even though it was relevant to the conversation it gets deleted. As we developed the kits there is no way for us to mention it without advertising it. However, seeing as people are clearly interested i will just point out....
I stumbled across a morris minor central locking kit the other day, not sure who sells it, or where it is made, or price etc etc (which i know is not much help) but i can say that it is a great kit which locks the handles of the car and is designed to use what the car has and not to be a cheap after market fix. Using the interior handle you can unlock the doors.
Any way, search google for a Morris Minor central locking solution and you might find it. Maybe.
Only trying to help,
Kind Regards,
Re: Remote deadlock central locking!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:54 pm
by linearaudio
Sounds like an excellent set-up. i believe there is also an electric window kit available to fit the Moggy if you look for it, now that would really add pose value if it was connected so the windows shut as you zapped the remote
When I first mentioned having made a "cheap aftermarket fix" for my Traveller, there was a little discussion about getting the lights to flash and a beep, to show the doors had locked/ unlocked, now is that OTT or just following modern trends?
Re: Remote deadlock central locking!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:05 pm
by A-Series Spares
linearaudio wrote:Sounds like an excellent set-up. i believe there is also an electric window kit available to fit the Moggy if you look for it, now that would really add pose value if it was connected so the windows shut as you zapped the remote
When I first mentioned having made a "cheap aftermarket fix" for my Traveller, there was a little discussion about getting the lights to flash and a beep, to show the doors had locked/ unlocked, now is that OTT or just following modern trends?
Indeed, i too have heard about a Morris Minor Electric Window kit, believe there is a video on youtube showing the windows going up when the doors are locked. You may of seen it.
I apologise about the cheap aftermarket fix comment, it didnt read like that when i wrote it. I believe the alarm that can be used to drive these kits has the option to beep or not beep. This is because new legislation states that it should not beep.
I like the indicators flashing though, i think that is a good touch and adds to roadside safety for night time locking and un locking.
But yes, i just wished to point out that there is now a company developing classic car security products.
Rob