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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:33 pm
by Kevin
bmcecosse wrote:I have Zeus as a pdf if anyone wants a copy!
Can I ask if you have purchased the copywrite or have permisson from the publishers to offer this on a public site because if not the repercussions may be ...................

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:58 pm
by mike.perry
My orginal spanner for my Minor van was a 1/4 - 5/16 W open ended in 1968. Still going strong today.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:10 pm
by alainmoran
I do wonder how it is that the MMOC is so worried about copyright law.

In the real world, most copyright prosecutions are aimed at people making a profit from the infringment - for example if you were selling copies of the Zeus PDF on eBay, or burning copies of the latest movie & knocking them out at a car boot.

In adittion to this fine point there is also the point about the process of being informed of a copyright infringment - you will be notified by email or letter and given a period to remove the infringing material.

It's only after failling/refusing to remove the infringing material that you would be prosecuted, and given the T&C's the MMOC wouldnt even be liable for the infringment, only the person posting would.

Hey ho, I guess you'll keep applying these rules despite what I believe, it's up to you I suppose, but you do look a bit silly.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:22 pm
by paulk
My hard copy cost me £5.

On the subject of Bolts anyone know what a 1992 Mini (proper one) engine should be? Metric or AF spanners?

Had a quick look at my Brother in laws at the weekend but all the bolts seemed to be those 'could be either sizes' you know the ones 1/2"-13mm 5/8"-16mm or 11mm - 7/16"

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:32 pm
by d_harris
I would put money on Imperial......

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:32 pm
by linearaudio
alainmoran wrote:I do wonder how it is that the MMOC is so worried about copyright law.

In the real world, most copyright prosecutions are aimed at people making a profit from the infringment - for example if you were selling copies of the Zeus PDF on eBay, or burning copies of the latest movie & knocking them out at a car boot.

In adittion to this fine point there is also the point about the process of being informed of a copyright infringment - you will be notified by email or letter and given a period to remove the infringing material.

It's only after failling/refusing to remove the infringing material that you would be prosecuted, and given the T&C's the MMOC wouldnt even be liable for the infringment, only the person posting would.

Hey ho, I guess you'll keep applying these rules despite what I believe, it's up to you I suppose, but you do look a bit silly.
Thought it was just me!! We aren't talking about the sort of scale which would have any commercial impact. Having said that, £5 for the real thing sounds a good price for lawfulness.
I'm glad my conscience is clear and I've never loaded a copy of windows on my computer :wink:

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:03 pm
by les
Thought it was just me!!
So did I!
I doubt if this is the most terrible thing done on a computer!

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:59 pm
by Blaketon
Took me a while to find this old thread. I had a Frost catalogue through the Post. I haven't opened it yet but I noticed that they are giving away Zeus books (I assume on orders over a certain amount) at present.