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Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 11:01 pm
by PSL184
That's probably why you've stripped the gear then... Not known for being strong boxes!
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 11:04 pm
by bmcecosse
Indeed not!
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 11:09 pm
by MColes
And it had been running a good few years with a 948 engine/803 box for a good number of years before I bought the car
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 10:28 am
by mike.perry
You will appreciate the better gear ratios on a 948 box. What diff are you running?
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 10:38 am
by MColes
mike.perry wrote:What diff are you running?
hmmmmm trying to not sound stupid here. But how can I tell?
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 12:14 pm
by dunketh
Only way I know its to pull it out the housing and look at the number stamped in the casing across the top of the gears.
As for gearbox - I feel your pain and would probably pull it out the front complete with engine as they're such a g_t to remove from underneath, twisting and turning then landing on you!
Why you bought a minor? Because they're the best thing since people discovered sliced bread was rubbish.
Re: DOOMED!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 1:29 pm
by moggie-tom
MColes wrote:To quote Edmund Blackadder "The path of my life is strewn with cowpats from the Devil's own Satanic herd!"
It only makes the noise in 1st gear so luckily I was able to get home by pulling off in second (wasn't great since I was stopped on a hill).
Is it alright for the car to pull off in second or would it end up not being able to mover any further than an asthmatic and with some heavy shopping!?
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 6:00 pm
by MColes
It moved in second, just not very well as I was forced to go up a hill. On the flat it would have been fine
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 6:15 pm
by PSL184
MColes wrote:mike.perry wrote:What diff are you running?
hmmmmm trying to not sound stupid here. But how can I tell?
Jack up the rear so one wheel is off the ground. Mark the tyre with chalk and also a point on the prop / diff flange. Turn the wheel one full rev and count the turns the prop makes then times that number by 2 to get ratio. So if you turn wheel once and prop revolves 2.1 turns then its a 4.2 diff.
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:46 pm
by MColes
So what would be the best diff to have with a 948 setup?
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:56 pm
by ASL642
4.55 I think
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:14 pm
by d_harris
4.55 I expect
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:21 pm
by PSL184
A 948 will pull a 4.22 easy enough and give you better cruising speed with lower revs...
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 12:15 am
by bmcecosse
Yep - go for a 4.2 - or even a 3.9. But you changed the back axle recently - what car did that come from ?? I too would pull the whole engine/box out the front - it's a nightmare working under the car (and potentially dangerous too!) unless you have a pit -or access to garage style ramps?
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 10:28 am
by mike.perry
If you are revving the nuts off the engine at 60mph you can be pretty sure that you have a 5.375 803 diff. The most suitable diff for a 948 engine is a 4.55 diff.
What TPI number do you have on the speedo face, eg 1504, 1408 etc? You will need to change the speedo if you change the diff.
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 10:46 am
by PSL184
mike.perry wrote:The most suitable diff for a 948 engine is a 4.55 diff.
As a sweeping statement this is not necessarilly true! I run a 4.22 in my 948 Traveller without any detriment to the car or it's driving characteristics at all. I would back the statement up with the following: If you do mainly town driving with some dual carrigeways and little motorway use, then go for a 4.55. However, if you do mostly motorway and dual carrigeways i would go for the taller gearing a 4.22 offers. Ultimately, of course, the choice is yours and fortunately neither of the above diffs are expensive to buy secondhand (unlike the 3.9 or 3.7 versions).
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 2:38 pm
by bmcecosse
The 948 engine can so easily be 'upgraded' slightly - it's well worth fitting the lower ratio (ie 4.2 or 3.9) diff - and then improving the engine to suit. Also fuel economy is so much more important nowadays - the lower ratio diff will help that too. Ok - sometimes you will need to go for 3rd on a hill - but all the rest of the time it will pull well. Best economy comes with low revs and full open throttle - provided the carb and engine timing have been optimised of course! !
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 7:04 pm
by mike.perry
If you live in the Lake District, Peak District, North York Moors etc I would stick with a 4.55
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 7:10 pm
by bmcecosse
Ahh - now that ^^^^ 's a special case!!
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 11:14 am
by MColes
Just went out and checked what diff my car has got. I worked it out as a 4.55. If I remember rightly the car it came off was a later Series II. So would this be right?
Still no luck getting a gearbox
