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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:15 pm
by bmcecosse
But - doesn't come with a new spring ? Hmmmmm.....

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:29 pm
by les
That short ones a locating plate. Instead of the pressed steel and rubber that the saloons use.

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:34 pm
by aupickup
you have to take the small one off the old springs
as les says it could be classed as a locating plate, it is bolted through with all the other leafs
also it pays to take out the original bolt holding all the leafs together
unlike the saloons where this is a rubber and metal locating plate

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:53 pm
by bigginger
We're on a hiding to nothing here - clearly it's another one of those things that some will refuse to believe. Whatever - it doesn't alter the awkward matter of it being the truth.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:09 pm
by bmcecosse
Ehh ?

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:20 pm
by les
Deep man!---we're talking Marianas trench here.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:15 am
by M25VAN
Mechanical service parts list, for a van/pickup, clearly shows that rear springs could have either 7 or 8 seperate leafs.
There are other places to go David that specialise in making leaf springs and may give a better quality than the repro springs from suppliers, some of which look horrible. Springs that is, not suppliers. :D

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:17 am
by Kevin
les wrote:Deep man!---we're talking Marianas trench here.
Had to look that one up, but point taken Les.
I never disagree with you commercial owners as I know they have many differences from the rest of the Moggies but some always know better, now where has that trench gone :wink:

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:28 pm
by davidmiles
Well, here are the springs at the start of the disassembly, my original question asking if I should restore and use these original leaf springs is academic really as Wibble Puppy has donated two leaf springs to my project, some of the leafs are better than the original one's on the car, mind you it stood in an open field for over 20 years, so they ain't bad considering. hate to think what I'll look like in 20 years.<br>Image<br>

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:38 pm
by bmcecosse
They look fine ! The ends of the leaves are not worn into the adjacent leaf - with some de-rusting and a coat of thick oil - they would certainly do a turn.

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:51 pm
by davidmiles
Ok, coat of thick oil, rather than a coat of hammerite black do you think?

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:54 pm
by bmcecosse
Absolutely!

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:12 pm
by davidmiles
I understand why now, the leafs don't just bend as one, they slide againts one another, so if they are smooth and well oiled the suspension will be smoother, well, thats the theory.<br>Image<br>

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:22 pm
by bmcecosse
Indeed - although some would argue that the oil will attract dust/dirt - which will form a grinding paste and then accelerate wear! Can also argue the oil will reduce the 'self damping' effect caused by the friction as the leaves slide. But really - it's best to let springs 'spring', and dampers 'damp'! Ideally - after the oiling - the spring leaves can be wrapped in a protective cover. In the 'old days' it would have been leather! Sometimes now Denso tape is used - but any hard wearing water resistant material would do.