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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:01 pm
by bigginger
dave1949 wrote:
whoever thought of having all those motorways converge in one place.
I think the Italians started it with Spaghetti Junction? :wink:
The Spaghetti Junction in Birmingham?
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:17 pm
by dave1949
The Spaghetti Junction in Birmingham?
Thats the one!
It wasnt a precise comment to the M25? i didnt read it as though it was,or is it me again :oops:
Detention again tonight :cry:
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:33 pm
by overider
The original idea of the M25 is good it just should have been three times wider.
As should most of the motorways.
:-? :-? :-?

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:05 pm
by Peetee
The original idea of the M25 is good it just should have been three times wider.
As should most of the motorways
It's a well known fact in the civil engineering world that the government is just plain tight.
The M3 was the main arterial road from London and the north to the south coast, including Portsmouth, Southampton and Bournemouth. When the section to be built north of Winchester was put out to tender the specification was for the minimum (and national 'standard' for more than 15 years) 3 lane motorway although it was envisaged even then that traffic would exceed that need within the following ten years. Every single contractor returned the same response: The Department of Transport wasn't going to get a 3-lane for the money they were offering. So the plans were revised to built a 2 lane instead.
Bonkers.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:47 am
by 8009STEVE
At least you dont live near to it Steve unlike some of us
Used to live in Weybridge.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:36 am
by Kevin
I think the Italians started it with Spaghetti Junction? :wink:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Have to try and remember that one.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:58 am
by Orkney
Think the magic roundabout beats Spag junction :-)

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:49 am
by Kevin
Think the magic roundabout beats Spag junction :)
But there are a few of them around, there is one not far from me in Hemel Hempstead.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:18 pm
by overider
Peetee wrote:
The original idea of the M25 is good it just should have been three times wider.
As should most of the motorways
It's a well known fact in the civil engineering world that the government is just plain tight.
The M3 was the main arterial road from London and the north to the south coast, including Portsmouth, Southampton and Bournemouth. When the section to be built north of Winchester was put out to tender the specification was for the minimum (and national 'standard' for more than 15 years) 3 lane motorway although it was envisaged even then that traffic would exceed that need within the following ten years. Every single contractor returned the same response: The Department of Transport wasn't going to get a 3-lane for the money they were offering. So the plans were revised to built a 2 lane instead.
Bonkers.
I think anything and everything to do with the government or local councils are totally incompetent as they are run as cheaply as possible with inexperienced spotty face kids. They get tied up in knots by stupid government rules and red tape. Then just have a guess at what to do. AND ITS ALWAYS WRONG!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:26 pm
by bigginger
Phew - it's a good job you don't like to generalise...
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:01 pm
by Peetee
stupid government rules
Like making old cars tax exempt for example. :wink:

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:33 pm
by overider
bigginger wrote:Phew - it's a good job you don't like to generalise...
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Am a Yorkshire man we call a spade a spade and a shovel a shovel.

Thes' nowt that can beat bin honest. Wi just tel it like it is :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:35 pm
by overider
Like making old cars tax exempt for example. :wink:[/quote]

Like stopping the rolling 25 year exemption for example. :wink: :wink: :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:43 pm
by bigginger
overider wrote:
bigginger wrote:Phew - it's a good job you don't like to generalise...
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Am a Yorkshire man we call a spade a spade and a shovel a shovel.

Thes' nowt that can beat bin honest. Wi just tel it like it is :lol: :lol: :lol:
No, you just tell it in incredibly broad terms which happen to match what you choose to believe, but it doesn't really matter, I guess. It just sticks in my craw
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:49 pm
by overider
Give me the name of a well run government department that no one has ever had a problems with?…………….. ‘Hard I know’. :wink: :wink: :wink:

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:56 pm
by bigginger
Not playing - I've already said more than I should have.
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:59 pm
by overider
:wink: :wink: :wink:

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:00 pm
by rob.hardy1
defend bureaucracy no, but show me a man that didnt make a mistake and i will show you a man who did naff all.

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:19 pm
by bigginger
overider wrote::wink: :wink: :wink:

??????? :o

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:45 pm
by overider
Firstly, I would like to apologise if I have offended any one with my comment about Government bodies being incompetent. This is only my opinion based on my personal dealings and others I know with government bodies. This is not an attack on any individual what so ever as I do not know anyone employed by the government. I am sure that bright and intelligent people must also work somewhere within the departments as well. Therefore, if I have offended anyone I am SORRY.