Morris Minor Owners Club

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:22 pm**

bigginger wrote:And, as a complete aside, while it was called Cif everywhere else in the world, it was called 'Vim' in Britain because Cif might have been mistaken for an abbreviation for a sexually transmitted infection. That's the urban myth, anyway, but the difference in the names isn't. I think, btw, that that's acceptable for a family audience, but delete it if not - it's a favourite story of mine

Andrew, you are talking about two different products - it was Jif that turned into Cif, not Vim?

Great story though

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:23 pm**

Julliet - how can you expect a man to understand the finer details of cleaning products? The best we can usually manage is "does it get grease off my hands/best shirt/carpet"!!

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:33 pm**

RogerRust wrote:Julliet - how can you expect a man to understand the finer details of cleaning products? The best we can usually manage is "does it get grease off my hands/best shirt/carpet"!!

You mean you actually bother about cleaning grease off your hands, best shirt and carpet??? not me, mate

and i don't know how the iron works, either (at least that's what i tell Griff

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Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:28 pm**

wibble_puppy wrote: Andrew, you are talking about two different products - it was Jif that turned into Cif, not Vim?

Great story though

You're right - my bad. Probably because I'm WAY TOO YOUNG to remember the products. No, really. Really...
Have I gotten away with that?

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:11 pm**

Have I gotten away with that?

Just don't mention cillit bang!

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:23 pm**

bigginger wrote: You're right - my bad. Probably because I'm WAY TOO YOUNG to remember the products. No, really. Really...
Have I gotten away with that?

oh, sorry dude, i thought you were an elderly kind of cove. I'll stop treating you with respectful deference right away, then.

Exactly how old are you? as "Jif" changed to "Cif" about three years ago

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:30 pm**

42 -and still haven't found the meaning of life...

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:36 pm**

bigginger wrote:42 -and still haven't found the meaning of life...

Do you remember when you last had it? Try checking down the back of the sofa.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:43 pm**

It's always eluded me

I reckon this is so far off topic now that it needs moving - so I wiil...

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:58 pm**

you read my mind

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:32 pm**

Well can I add an on topic comment, now it's off topic??

I wouldn't run without an air cleaner at all. Did this for just one day with a Honda moped and wore the bore / rings out. I guess the air intake might have been picking up road spray with dirt in it, but I would never take the risk again! Just my 2p's worth.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:43 pm**

lowedb wrote:I wouldn't run without an air cleaner at all. Did this for just one day with a Honda moped and wore the bore / rings out. I guess the air intake might have been picking up road spray with dirt in it, but I would never take the risk again! Just my 2p's worth.

I didn't mean to, and I really hope I haven't done any serious damage.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:14 pm**

JimK wrote:I didn't mean to, and I really hope I haven't done any serious damage.

You'd know if you had.

You might have sped up the rate of engine wear considerably compared to running with a filter. But given the Minor has an air intake stuck near the top of the engine bay well away from any low level spray or road dirt, and the weather has been mostly cold and wet, I doubt you'll have done any significant damage at all.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:22 pm**

JimK wrote:Haven't tried - got interrupted by a small person halfway through an oil change (after draining but before refilling).

What was the small person doing where your filter should be?

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:43 pm**

If its any consolation Ford Pops didn't have air or oil filters.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:49 pm**

tiny bits of grit can sometimes become lodged inside the SU's needle seat causing wear or over fueling of bad running, have you noticed anything wrong with the running lumpyness at times perhaps bad in cold starts and uneven idle? only time i ran no filter on an SU was to a garage who were supplying one

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:53 pm**

David@A-Serious.com wrote:tiny bits of grit can sometimes become lodged inside the SU's needle seat causing wear or over fueling of bad running, have you noticed anything wrong with the running lumpyness at times perhaps bad in cold starts and uneven idle? only time i ran no filter on an SU was to a garage who were supplying one

Actually, yes I have. It started stuttering (there's a thread about an intermittent misfire) and it's not idling very well.

A carb stripdown might be in order, but the engine's coming out soon.

Posted: **Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:04 am**

would seem that a rebuild is in order im not sure where your able to get rebuild kits but they are available from http://www.minispares.com/ which is a mini specialist good luck with finding parts on there can be a little cluttered at time

Posted: **Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:13 am**

Surely running with no air filter will mean the mixture is very lean as there is far less restriction? Maybe that's the cause of the misfire?

If you're junking the engine soon for the turbo unit then there seems little point in doing anything to it, so long as it runs.

Posted: **Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:26 am**

wouldnt cause a missfire because a spark can still light it if the mix was too rich the plugs would be come wet giving misfire, also depending on the filter in the car there might not be that much difference in the restriction difference wih it on or off

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Running with no air filter - how bad?