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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:34 am
by Judge
tony22 wrote:thank you my question seems to have caused a little controvesy and comment i enjoy looking through all the different posting iam now a fully paid upmember . i will watch for more comments on the question of remote servos before i decide what to do . it is also my intetion to join the lincoln club as well
Welome to the Club Tony
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:17 am
by plastic_orange
To add a new dimension to this discussion - servo can go in the boot if you wish - just a bit more plumbing - but if you've bought a flaring tool you may as well use it.
Pete
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:24 am
by ronwilson
Welome (even welcome) to the Club Tony. Gosh, imagine your first post and you've got the blood flowing even in us oldies. Haven't logged on for a while, (garden, house, duties...!) but have enjoyed the postings and relieved I'd remembered login details!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:14 pm
by bigginger
You could just fit Wolseley 1500 9" drums. No extra work or plumbing needed at all...
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:28 pm
by Kevin
No extra work
only if using the original cylinders which are much dearer than the moggie ones, if using moggie ones a bit of work is needed.
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:52 pm
by bigginger
Yup, I'm afraid I lapsed into sarcasm there
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:23 pm
by tony22
what a site so many opinions for and against and not a swear word in site
thats good .
i realy didnt think it would cause so much interest . but still not decided .will watch this space to see hope fully more debate on the servo should i should i not .??. just to add i would not fit discs .
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:01 pm
by wanderinstar
Jonathon,
IS it more difficult to pipe a servo to a Minor than any other classic car?
Bigginger,
Yes that IS an alternative that no one has brought up. Well done.
Ian.
servo
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:09 pm
by Willie
Tony22, to let you know that I ran a servo on the front 8" drum brakes only
for over four years,in London traffic, with no problems whatsoever. Of course
this meant that the inherent weakness of drum brakes i.e. serious brake fade
to to overheating was still a problem and would be exacerbated if you were the type who stamped on the brakes at the last minute as a driving style.
I have now uprated to discs and am quite pleased with the result. The remote servo will fit quite easily on the engine compartment floor as far back as possible in the corner next to the starter motor.
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:47 pm
by plastic_orange
I used a servo with Riley brakes - made the first stop of the day quite interesting, but fine after that. To be honest, they were as good as Marina discs, but try getting parts for them.
Pete
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:48 pm
by tony22
i am fairly steady dont think hot brakes would be a problem
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:03 pm
by jonathon
Ian, its pretty straightforward to plumb in a servo on the Minor. You only need to add a few more brake lines and vac take off. If you have the equipment and understanding of how to carry out the job, its as easy as plumbing a standard system.
Tony, if you are a steady driver and drive within the limitations of your car then I would stay with non assisted standard set up. I'd not fit a servo to drums.
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:03 pm
by wanderinstar
Hey Pete, I have Riley brakes all round. Bought a set of front cylinders of Ebay for about £70. Yes more expensive than Minor ones, but you don't get anything for nothing.
Ian.
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:34 pm
by tony22
ANY MORE
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:40 pm
by nebogipfel
tony22 wrote:ANY MORE
I've got a question
How do the Wolseley and Riley front brakes differ?
I intend fitting one or the other to my Trav' as some point.
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:31 pm
by wanderinstar
They are both 9" dia but the Riley ones are about 3/4" wider than Wolseley ones.
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:42 pm
by plastic_orange
Riley brakes are generally bigger overall than wolseley (to cope with stopping a car with 68 bhp) - particularly the width of the shoes, method of adjustment, flexi pipe etc - they are also from a different manufacturer. I fitted A60 shoes to mine because I couldn't get a set of Riley ones (this was 25 years ago), but spares situation may be better now.
Realistically, discs are a much better option, and they do appear on E bay surprisingly often - 2 pairs on E bay just now. I used to fit them by using a long forgotten bearing set, and getting some light machining done, fitting a small spacer, opening up the holes in the upright, then getting hub redrilled to minor pattern - not difficult.
Marina/ital are now well passed their sell by date (still work though), and others have moved on with more up to date equipment - particularly Ford. No reason that other manufacturers parts can't be used - mate used Fiat parts 20 years ago and it was pretty straightforward.
Pete
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:43 pm
by nebogipfel
wanderinstar wrote:They are both 9" dia but the Riley ones are about 3/4" wider than Wolseley ones.
Thanks for that,
Does that mean one is better to use than the other?
Sounds like Riley replacement parts may be a problem?
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:56 pm
by paulhumphries
nebogipfel wrote:wanderinstar wrote:They are both 9" dia but the Riley ones are about 3/4" wider than Wolseley ones.
Thanks for that,
Does that mean one is better to use than the other?
Sounds like Riley replacement parts may be a problem?
One source is -
http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~sandy/wo ... rakes.html
Look at the prices compared to Minor parts
Even the shoes are on an exchange basis !
Paul Humphries.
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:17 pm
by nebogipfel
Thanks Paul, But it looks like Wolseley and Riley parts are the same price on that list.
I got the impression from reading various posts that it is preferable to use the Wolseley brakes - if that is so, can someone tell me why?