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OH dear! hopefully it hasnt damaged the wing headlight mounting ring.

flying, thank you so much for this thread, you are an inspiration, a powerhouse of Minor-saving energy, seems to me you have completely rebuilt a car which would have been scrap if a sane person had owned it you are a superstar. your welding is amazing and the car does you all kinds of justice - i agree with your wife about the colour btw

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so sorry to hear some idiot has already bumped the car I do hope we'll see it at rallies

wibble_puppy wrote:flying, thank you so much for this thread, you are an inspiration, a powerhouse of Minor-saving energy, seems to me you have completely rebuilt a car which would have been scrap if a sane person had owned it you are a superstar. your welding is amazing and the car does you all kinds of justice - i agree with your wife about the colour btw

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so sorry to hear some idiot has already bumped the car I do hope we'll see it at rallies

thank you its been a pleasure to show you and maybe help some people...even tho i had to learn how the moggy was put together my self,got their in the end .......i had to laugh at your comment tho , im not married & single.....dont get nagged at which sounds perfect to me ....and the car is my actually my sisters car ....maybe she might join her self one day

flying wrote:i had to laugh at your comment tho , im not married & single

ooops!! er that'll be my confuddled brain then....

well, if you carry on welding like that you are going to be fighting off the sensible women with a brown stick

.....dont get nagged at which sounds perfect to me

I feel I do really have a duty to say: it depends on the woman!!

....and the car is my actually my sisters car ....maybe she might join her self one day

That'd be GRAND

Hi Flying,

Im about to start welding up my moggie brenda I was hopping to get her back on the road this spring, but....

I took her down to a chap who I was hoping to get to weld her up!!

As he put her onthe lift the leg of the lift under the sill disapeared up through the body work until it rested on I dont know what!!

After some drawing in on breath he quoted a price that would have made purchasing a newly rebuilt moggie sound cheep. Not being a compleate novice I realise that he didnt want the job

So my plan is to do it in my own time, I havent welded for over 8 years since I was at college. I have started to strip her down, Im going to lift her engine out strip her right down to a bare shell and roll her over on her side to weld her up, looks as if she is going to need as much as you did to get her back on the road, so its great to see that there is hope for her yet...

Many thanks for this thread It may have saved brenda. Who incedently was rescued from this list.

Have you got any advice on how to keep motivated to get it done? Im worried I might not ever finish this one.

Have you got any advice on how to keep motivated to get it done? Im worried I might not ever finish this one.

Think of the pleasure both you and others will get when finished. I have been on my modified traveller for 2 1/2 years. DONT GIVE UP. It will be worth it.

nslocomotive wrote:Hi Flying,

Im about to start welding up my moggie brenda I was hopping to get her back on the road this spring, but....

I took her down to a chap who I was hoping to get to weld her up!!

As he put her onthe lift the leg of the lift under the sill disapeared up through the body work until it rested on I dont know what!!

After some drawing in on breath he quoted a price that would have made purchasing a newly rebuilt moggie sound cheep. Not being a compleate novice I realise that he didnt want the job

So my plan is to do it in my own time, I havent welded for over 8 years since I was at college. I have started to strip her down, Im going to lift her engine out strip her right down to a bare shell and roll her over on her side to weld her up, looks as if she is going to need as much as you did to get her back on the road, so its great to see that there is hope for her yet...

Many thanks for this thread It may have saved brenda. Who incedently was rescued from this list.

Have you got any advice on how to keep motivated to get it done? Im worried I might not ever finish this one.

sorry to hear the news on moggy.....you must have been shocked to see it lowering on the ramps....i know i would have been.........the only advice i can give to keep your self motivated and think i will get this done and when its done it will be worth while,
once you start dont give up,spend has much time has you can doing it & before you know it it will be done
it might seem to take a while to do at 1st but once you get so far your brain seems to stick in overdrive and you get more done in the time....you are lucky that summer is now on its way,has when i did this one it was start of winter cold weather etc but i pushed my self even more to try and get it done in my time scale i had set...even tho i went past it slightly.....i just push my self to get rebuilds done other wise they will never get done...some people spend years getting rebuilds done....my longest one ive ever done was 6 months...even after doing the moggy ive started on another ...good luck on recovering the moggy

Flying...

I've been having a great time cutting out the rot on the bootfloor and am now about to weld in the boot floor repair panel and the repai panel that fits under the bootlid. Question - should the edges of these two panels be spot welded, plug welded or edge welded?

thanks

Stag36587

the panels had a bit of everything...the bottom boot panel was seamed welded by the tank side and around the side edges,the outer back panels was butt joined and seam welded below the petrol hole side etc, and where the outer panel joins the boot floor pan it was plug welded and edge welded only prob with the edge weld you have more of a chance of losing the straight lines so be careful you dont burn through the metal.

Hi flying

Im glad someone had already asked you that question, I started cutting brenda's boot rot out today, and there is a lot ofit too... I copied you and removed the petrol tank, its probably safer that way. and I have now got the replacement pannels. Im considering how much to cut out as the floor pannel dosnt extend fully past the bumper mounts. The question is do i

a) cut out all the boot floor weld in the new pannel and then fill the gaps with plate.

or

b) cut out so ythe the new panel is welded to the exsiting parts where the pannel ends..?

What did you do, I can see that you cut out all of the boot floor.

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i would chop that rotten section out and chop along the top flat section line that is just before the fuel tank....chop the boot catch has well has it will make it easier,so then you can push the panel in and score along the edge line so you know where to cut

Thanks Im re-assured

Thats what ive just done, Ive cut out the whole section, just found some expanding foam aswell????? Inside the rear spring mountings..

The rear inner wings on both sides are rotton except for some small patch repairs so im cutting out more than I expected.

I managed to mince through five cutting disks is this normal???

Great fun though, Im comiting as much time to this as I can so I can get her boot done and move on to her sills. Thats if I ever find them under all the black stuff yuk!!

with 5 disks it all depends what type of cutting disks u got.......you can get thicker or thinner ones...i pefer the thin ones has they cut better and dont chop to much out.....it all depends how much pressure u put on it to how quick they wear out......you are not the only one who found expanding foam....the day people work out that expanding foam doesn't stop rust but attracts more rust the better .hope you are having fun restoring it

Hi Flying

Im having great fun restoring this minor, Ive been a bit busy of late but I did manage to try my hand at welding for the fist time in eight years yesterday, here is what I have done..

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As you can see Ive blown a few holes, the pannel seams to have moved or changed shape , im asuming because of the amps too high, Im using an arc walder from FROST Im even using it on its lowes posible setting for amps, is there a site out there that can help? Otherwise this will be a long restoration job... But any way its a start. I shall see what tomorow brings

give it time m8 to get back into welding has you haven't welded for a while,you also have to know what amps etc and the best way your machine works with the speed you work....if you stay in one place to long and to much amps you will blow holes plus you are welding new panels on old so you will expect some problems..........get some sheet metal and have a practice on doing some welding to get used to your machine with wire speed and amp settings
have a look on this site http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/ and you might be able to pick up some useful bits that may help,i just practiced and got use to my machine , what sort of helmet are you using has i found the solar paneled helmets make welding so much easier and a worth while investment ,and with it changing shape its because you prob have to much heat and its twisting the metal.....spot weld the panel all the way along in say 5 inch gaps and it will keep it in place until you seam weld it,also you can get paste that you can apply on the metal that stops the heat transferring into the whole panel i think from memory its called cold stop,hope this info is usefull

practice makes perfect

the floor pannel dosnt extend fully past the bumper mounts.

the boot floor panel should extend right to the inner wing joint - or did you mean you wanted it longer (front to back) rather than wider (left to right)?
For a beginner I'd recommend to cut back to solid metal then leave a 1" overlap to the new metal and stitch it (although you'll need to seam weld the visible parts nearby the box sections for MOT regulations). Where the panels are normally spot welded together it should be possible to plug weld - I use an 8 to 10mm hole - and loads of current if there are more than 2 panels at the joint.

rayofleamington wrote:

the floor pannel dosnt extend fully past the bumper mounts.

the boot floor panel should extend right to the inner wing joint - or did you mean you wanted it longer (front to back) rather than wider (left to right)?

the panel that esm supply doesn't actually go to the ends...has pics shows(just below by where the bumper iron bolts on ).....i had to make and weld a panel in my self to make it right

Hi again,

you may be getting somewhat tire of, my woes. but jus to let you know, Ihave spent a bit of time on her today and she is starting to get there. I now have seem weld running full width of the panel, Ive put in a peice in the drivers side where the pannel falls short. This is a bit of a pain to get at but it seams to be ok.

The welder I am using ist a stick welder and not a MIG hence probably the holes, although I bought some rods from a different suplier and thease seam to work a lot better. Although they blow holes quicker.

I wouldliketo buy a MIG but it needs to get past the domestic planning authorities to get funding, and I think thats a long way off, so Im trying to make do.

The next step is the next pannel which is only clamped at the moment Im a bitaprehensive as this pannel requires some plug welds and is on show so it has to be good.
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thanks for all the advice and encouragement

Hi all

From any who have done this before, are there any particular tips for replacing the floor - eg. where it joins the transmssion tunnel?

I'm replacing the sills too - are the floor extension panels available from the suppliers - ie those that join floor to outer sills? I couldn't see them when I looked?


thanks
Alastair