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Re: Rose Taupe Traveller Restoration- update 21

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:51 am
by klm
Hi

I have in my possession the front end checking fixture originally supplied by BMC Cowley to the agent for Morris cars in Sri Lanka, British Cars Ltd. in the 1950's. I acquired the fixture in 1988 but to date have not used on my car as I am concerned if the fixture is accurate due to many years of usage by the Morris dealer. I would like to verify that the fixture has not suffered any distortion and as such would like to obtain a copy of the document issued by Cowley which provides the critical dimensions. If a copy of the document cannot be obtained, I would appreciate if someone could supply me the dimensions to check the fixture. Thanks

Re: Rose Taupe Traveller Restoration- update 21

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:28 pm
by taupe
Hi

If its this arrangement below I cant see how it could be out very much unless its been seriously abused.

Best to check diagonal measurements are equal to ensure its not been twisted.

Can you post a picture?
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Re: Rose Taupe Traveller Restoration- update 21

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:51 pm
by Ian46
What happened to the rebuild? Is it still ongoing?
Regards Ian

Re: Rose Taupe Traveller Restoration- update 21

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:52 pm
by taupe
Hi Ian

Im still on bathroom and kitchen restoration duties!! :(

I have done very little more on the bodywork but I have found time to do the odd bit of mechanical restoration.

Ive stripped the rear axle, replaced the rear wheel bearings, seals and the pinion oil seal.

The axle case is now waiting for some paint.

I was very lucky to be able to skim the original 1963 rear brake drums (they have 19/02/63 on the casting)- They were quite scored but fortunately not very deeply so they went in the lathe for a 10-15 thou cut and have cleaned up very nicely with plenty of wear diameter still spare.

The diff and half shafts dont show any appreciable wear so again lucky with this :D

Heres a pic of the diff and new pinion seal, though Ive already posted these pics under mechanical.
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I cant wait to get back to body repairs, maybe in a month or so.

Taupe

Re: Rose Taupe Traveller Restoration- update 21

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:21 am
by chickenjohn
taupe wrote:-snip-
I cant wait to get back to body repairs, maybe in a month or so.

Taupe
Looking forward to it!

Re: Rose Taupe Traveller Restoration- update 21

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:16 pm
by taupe
Hi

Ive been doing a mini project on the traveller.. My NMP plate with the body number on was missing/rotted out on the engine tie plate.

So - thanks to the generous loan from Rob Thomas of an excellent condition plate I set about making one for my trav.

Thanks Rob :D :D :D

The top strip in the pic is the body number plate from the main bulkhead above where the wiper motor is on my car. The middle one is the replacemant I have made by making up a press tool from Rob Thomas's original at the bottom using a soft mould and tooling resin.

This is incidentally the earlier type plate... its generally the same as later ones, but the writing is slightly smaller

Mine is very shiney as its new tinplated steel.. Robs has a coat of silver paint on.

Im really pleased with the results and now just need to stamp my body numbers on before fitting to the car. :D :D :D

I am making and stamping numbers on one for don58van and can do the same for others as long as the press tool holds up.

PM me if interested.

Taupe

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Re: Rose Taupe Traveller Restoration- update 21

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:43 pm
by ptitterington
The work you have done is truly awesome. The detail is fantastic.

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Re: Rose Taupe Traveller Restoration- update 21

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:08 pm
by Dryad
Incredible - it looks like the real thing! I wish I had your skills. I can't wait to see the Traveller finished.

Re: Rose Taupe Traveller Restoration- update 21

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:47 am
by RobThomas
We bow down before thee, oh great lord of all things metallic! :D

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwesome work!



I'm dying to know just HOW you did it, though.

Re: Rose Taupe Traveller Restoration- update 21

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:50 pm
by taupe
Hi Rob

This is the press tool I have made.

Process was as follows: plastacene pressing from your original, polyester resin master cast into the plastacine then 'cleaned up' ,high strength resin cast from polyester master, original plate used to line up both halves and hs resin moulds bonded to plates to fit the hand press.

Here is a pic
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Ps I have posted your original back today... Again many thanks for the loan.

Taupe

Re: Rose Taupe Traveller Restoration- update 21

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:37 am
by alex_holden
Impressive (no pun intended!). :lol:

I wouldn't have expected resin to be hard enough to press fine details into steel like that. How much force do you need to apply?

Re: Rose Taupe Traveller Restoration- update 21

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:26 am
by taupe
Alex

Its tooling resin - steel and titanium filled!!! and a force of several tons is required with a number of hits :D

I also lubricate each one.

The strength of the resin and very accurate alignment is the key factor... Its still holding up but Im not expecting it to last for very long before some of the fine detail gets lost.

Taupe

Re: Rose Taupe Traveller Restoration- update 21

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:53 pm
by RobThomas
Plates arrived home safely. Cheers, matey!

Re: Rose Taupe Traveller Restoration- update 21

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:40 pm
by davidpidge
I'm blown away by this thread. And I was so proud when I changed a window rubber and a clutch plate. My new traveller would be much better off in your hands. It's even the same year and rose taupe!

Re: Rose Taupe Traveller Restoration- update 21

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:59 pm
by taupe
Hi

Ive had a few evenings to progress with the traveller.

I started with a repair to the n/s front bumpstop. A paper template was made from a nos panel I have for the o/s and reversed for this panel.

The repair was cut out and darts used to help create the curve.

Then it was gas welded in with the wiper motor bracket left in place to help with alignment. The flitch panel was also trial fitted to get the edge to the correct height.
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I got a new toy to help with the restoration :D . It helps a lot when creating curved edges....
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I made a repair section with it for the curved return of the inner front mudguard.. here are some pics
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Ive also made some new engine towers as mine were all very bent and rusty
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Im very pleased with these :D

Ive also started making a rear end jig as was not happy with the spring locations and will post some pics when this is finished.

Its great to have a little time for progress.

Taupe

Re: Rose Taupe Traveller Restoration- update 22

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:47 pm
by chickenjohn
Lovely Fabrication work, Taupe!

I bought myself s shrinker stretcher a few years ago too! Great tools aren't they!

Glad to see you back at work on the bodywork of your traveller. :)

Re: Rose Taupe Traveller Restoration- update 22

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:50 pm
by RobThomas
Just a thought, Charles. When finished, would you sell copies of your paper patterns?

Re: Rose Taupe Traveller Restoration- update 22

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:44 pm
by chrisd87
Have just read through this whole thread, and am amazed at the skill, care and attention to detail that's gone into this car. I'm sure the finished product will be superb. Would make a great 'from the ground up' story for a magazine.

Re: Rose Taupe Traveller Restoration- update 22

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:30 am
by ASL642
Taupe - you should go into business - fabricating the repair panels - then they'd fit! Fascinating thread - learnt so much. :D

Re: Rose Taupe Traveller Restoration- update 22

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 10:20 pm
by taupe
Hi

Ive been completing the n/s bump stop area repairs and have made up a pair of bumpstop support repair panels.

You can see the state of the metal - this was covered with a very crude welded patch on the underside.

The aim now is to finally get the flitch panel welded in... its been a long time coming as I wanted to be sure of its correct placement and so many other panels join here.
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After alignment it was spotwelded on and a couple of stitch welds were added to the back for good measure :D