Halogen Conversions ...

Post by **JustinMinor1000** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:24 pm

I'm looking into this .. But I'd love some advice if anyone has any ..

I have a set of Halogen light conversions on the Landrover and even though they are ony four years old they are rusting at the bottom of the reflectors ..

Can anyone reccomend a longer lasting make ? Preferably with the same profile as the Lucas sealed beams ...

I don't really want the light output It's just the ease sourceing the bulbs ..

Justin

Post by **minor_hickup** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:21 pm

wipac halogens, ive got them and theyre great, theyre a direct replacement for the lucas 7" sealed beam and available from most morris minor specialists

Post by **minor_hickup** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:22 pm

PS if youre not worried about light output, you could always get hold of another set of sealed beams for next to nothing. Ive got a set you could have.

Post by **moggyminor16** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:32 pm

hi there
welli have ones off my rangerover there wipac and i have normaly blubs in them but will be upgrading to 100/160
let me look at work i might be able to get a set at cost if interested

Post by **chrisd87** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:41 pm

will be upgrading to 100/160

I hope you don't mean 100/160w, because that would be illegal, if my knowledge is correct. I was under the impression that the maximum for headlights was 55w dipped, 60w full beam.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Post by **moggyminor16** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:46 pm

no your right
off road use only sorry forgot that bit

Post by **Pyoor_Kate** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:00 pm

Aye, the set that were on my car had started to disintegrate - far enough I thought they'd probably not pass the MOT - the silvering was completely shot on the bottom half.

Wipac do a plastic and glass reflector now, which is what I've used to replace mine. I don't know how long it'll last though...

Post by **Multiphonikks** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:02 am

..Hebe's had problems with hers too. Or rather, they were the ones off Carrie (which I believe were a few years old) and I switched them to sell the Traveller.

Same problem - the silvering had started to go. But I would still recommend changing to halogen as they make a great difference. Make sure you've got an alternator though

Post by **Dominic** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:29 am

Multiphonikks wrote:.. Make sure you've got an alternator though

Would an extra few watts for halogen bulbs make such a demand on the battery / dynamo to warrant a change to an alternator? I'm currently on sealed beams, pretty decent light output, though obviously not quite so bright as halogens!

Post by **Multiphonikks** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:31 am

Hi Dominic,

I think (though I may be wrong) that it's the extra current you drain which makes an alternator recomended.

Post by **chickenjohn** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:37 am

Multiphonikks wrote:Hi Dominic,

I think (though I may be wrong) that it's the extra current you drain which makes an alternator recomended.

Not necessarily, halogen lights are brighter because they are more efficient giving more light per watt of electricity than conventional lights. I've had them on my 4-door for years with no battery drain problems and the four door only has a dynamo.

I prefer to stick to dynamos as you can fix them yourself, wheras alternators have to be exchanged for a recon one.

The halogen is good though! My old 4-door moggie (currently awaiting revival) had better headlamps than many modern cars!!

Post by **rayofleamington** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:04 am

But I would still recommend changing to halogen as they make a great difference. Make sure you've got an alternator though

I'd also recommend Halogens, but would recommend to stay with the Dynamo (unless you commute in London during winter or if you have customised your car with a lot of high current consuming modern electrical gadgets

).
A 60W bulb uses 60 Watts - Halogens bulbs make more light for the same rating.

Post by **Matt** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:06 am

I hope you don't mean 100/160w, because that would be illegal, i

Actually.... in a minor it wouldn't..... One of my spridget friends emailed VOSA and said they had a spridget (no year supplied) and was dissapointed with the light output and was there a maximum wattage they could put in their lights, answer = no

I might ask em too actually... (and if there is a problem - i accept no responsibility)

Post by **Alec** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:11 pm

Hello Matt,

VOSA? if it is a government agency, then I'm certain your friend has been given incorrect information.
If normal 55\60watt lamps give inadequate light then there must be an electrical problem with his car, and in all probability higher wattage lamps will make the problem worse. Whatever high resistance that is reducing the lamp output will drop even more voltage with a higher current that the higher wattage lamps draw.
Incandescent lamps are very sensitive to voltage and relatively small changes make a big difference to light output.

Alec

Post by **minor_hickup** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:16 pm

The earths on the inner wings can get dirty and the bolt holding them in rusty, try cleaning them up for a brighter light.

Post by **Nigel2** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:34 pm

One thing that can make a lot of difference is putting in a nice fat relay for the headlamps and taking a direct (fused) wire from the battery to it. I was amazed to discover that you can loose about 2 volts through the existing wiring by the time it reaches the lamps which is a lot of watts lost! Halogen lamps do make a big difference but there are some nasty cheap ones on the market, I agree that the Wipac ones are pretty good and not too expensive.
Nigel

Post by **Dominic** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:32 pm

Halogens here we come then....... (Dynamos also "look" right too!)

Post by **minor_hickup** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:09 pm

I think i saw halogens in minor matter for £20, not sure if they were wipac though.

Post by **Scott** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:22 am

As Nigel2 said, fit a relay if upgrading the headlights.
As well as reducing voltage drop, it helps save the headlight switch also. I'd lost a few before fitting relays.

Post by **wanderinstar** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:40 pm

Try Xenon bulbs in your headlights. Brilliant, Literally.
Ian.