brake problem

Post by **dennis** » Wed Jul 16, 2003 9:25 pm

ok
brakes have ben just fine until today.
while driving, brakes were ok then suddenly a lot of pedal movement, still stopped though.
got home and checked all cylinders for leaks but they were all ok.
checked master cylinder for leaks but none there either.
checked all joints and they are all ok.
brakes will stop but with now excessive pedal movement.
what suddenly could have happened.

Post by **Chris Morley** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 12:25 am

Air in the system? Is the fluid level in the M.C. correct?

Part of the brake lining braking off ? (unlikely)..

Post by **Willie** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 8:06 pm

Try pushing hard on the brake pedal and see if your foot
slowly goes down to the floor....if so then your Master cylinder
is allowing fluid to by pass the piston. Next, try pumping the
brake pedal rapidly. If the pedal goes down less far each time
you pump then some or all of the brake shoes are too far away
from the drums although this is not likely to happen suddenly
unless something has broken(one of the adjusters)?

Post by **dennis** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 8:56 pm

thanks
i have now checked all the wheel cylinders and they are all ok, have adjusted all the brakes.
pedal when pushed hard will hold without going any further.
so i guess i will bleed the barakes this weekend and see what happens.

Post by **Willie** » Fri Jul 18, 2003 8:32 pm

If the brakes need bleeding then the pedal will feel spongey
and will never go really hard

Post by **Gareth** » Fri Jul 18, 2003 8:54 pm

I think Willie means:

"if the brakes need all the air taking out of the system..."

I like Skodas, indeed. Hrumph. That sounds like the kiddie-safe fliter going into overdrive again!

Post by **Willie** » Fri Jul 18, 2003 9:06 pm

This is disturbing... In my post above I did not write if the
brakes need "I like skodas" I used the usual term for pumping
air out of the brakes. I have tried to correct this but someone
appears to have done something which ensures that when I
write that term it always appears as "I like skodas". Not at all
funny and if people are going to interfere with our postings there
could be serious consequences!! I will report it to the Webmaster

Post by **Gareth** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 10:14 am

Willie! Do you not think that b l e e d i n g could be an expletive, in certain circumstances?

In which case, it has been automatically removed to save our delicate ears...

I remember it used to come up with "oops I typed a naughty word" every time an expletive was used.

Post by **Dizzi141** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 11:39 am

Its a filter thingumygig! Its really confusing though! I was like WHAT??? when I read Willies msg

Post by **Gareth** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 12:10 pm

Maybe it needs altering so that it comes up with a

smilie. I've seen some on other sites, that are a little more explicit, such as:

.

I wonder if the included smilies could be amended to include something like this, and the coding altered...?

Update:
I've just emailed Billy, so he knows about the situation.

Post by **dennis** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 7:06 pm

well i wondered what all the i like skodas was about

Post by **dennis** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 7:32 pm

ok to continue my saga with the brakes.
i bled the brakes today, but when the bleed nipple was opened i could only get 1 downstroke on the brake pedal successfully, consequent downstrokes were very hard to push down and on a couple of occasions nigh impossible.
so i would assume there is a blockage some where in the system, bleed nipples wwere quite rusty as well.

Post by **Willie** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 8:05 pm

That doesn't make a lot of sense Dennis! It seems that you
CAN press the brake pedal and stop the car but when you open
a bleed nipple you CANNOT press the pedal more than once??
Of course, when you open a bleed nipple you are removing all
resistance to operation of the pedal UNLESS there is a fault in
the Master cylinder. Have you tried opening a one of the
other bleed nipples?

Post by **dennis** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 8:11 pm

i know did not make a lot of sense to me neither.
had to exert a lot of pressure to force the pedal down, i will have another go tommorrow night and get back on to this.