Rear wings - pattern vs genuine

Post by **chickenjohn** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 9:45 am

Fair enough, Jonathan, my post wasn't directed at you ;)

and I agree with your points on quality.

Its just I was throwing in a "lateral thinking" option for the home restorer, such as Matt, who i understand is very competent in restorative matters.

Post by **Matt** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:47 am

home restorer, such as Matt, who i understand is very competent in restorative matters.

Who have you been talking too!!!

anyway i have "repaired" the wings on the convertable..... with lots of filler! i just cant get them quite right

Post by **chickenjohn** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:38 am

home restorer, such as Matt, who i understand is very competent in restorative matters.

Who have you been talking too!!!

You said so yourself!

I'm going to post a little article to the EKMM site on how I repaired the rear wings and link to it here

Post by **Matt** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:38 pm

no... I just said i could weld ;)

Post by **bigginger** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 2:00 pm

...and lift engines

Post by **Matt** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:14 pm

Post by **Cam** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:25 pm

chickenjohn wrote:Just to throw the proverbial spanner in the works, if the Patterns are better than the so=called "genuine" article, but are thinner steel, and you have to cut and weld to the Heritage ones to get them to fit, then why not consider a third option.

Repair your existing wings!

Very good suggestion John. I have done this with my MG B as the wings are a lot more expensive (and larger) than the Minor's ones.

Here are a couple if piccies:

Post by SR » Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:31 pm

nice work mate

Post by **Cam** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:39 pm

Cheers Steve.

Just needs a bit 'o care and time. Mind you, those repairs did not take very long at all...

Post by SR » Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:09 pm

also get the chance to let in some thicker metal

Post by **andrewsxt** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:26 am

Who was it that was doing some lead loading a while ago, and did it come out alright. got to be better than filler.

Post by **jonathon** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:40 am

Why is it better than filler?.

Post by **andrewsxt** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:02 am

Why is it better than filler?.

Can`t say mate, being a humble DIYer i just assumed that replacing metal with metal would be better, i`ve only ever seen it done on telly and i must say it looked fantastic and it seemed just as easy as filler so why not ?

Post by **chickenjohn** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:03 pm

Cam- nice work too! Thats much what I did on the Traveller rear wings.

Andrew, it was Sam Heath who did the lead!

Lead is better because it doesn't skrink, crack, absorb moisture.

having said that, I havent tried it either! But I'm going to.

Post by **andrewsxt** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:58 pm

He hasn`t posted for a while has he ?

SAM HEATH ARE YOU OUT THERE.

Post by SR » Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:30 pm

heres my humble attempt at saving an old wing and money, welded in patch,stripped too bare metal,rotary wire brush and jenolite, little bit of filler, then "bilt-hamber etch primer"

Post by **NZJLY** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:53 pm

JUST A WEE NOTE OF WARNING
Lead fumes are a killer, so if you are going to get into using lead (and it does come up pretty) just make sure you use all the safety gear - I have heard of a couple of petrol pump attendants who had to stop work because of lead poisoning (from skin absorption), and I would assume vaporized lead from heating it would be a bit scarier, as well as the dust from sanding. Sorry to be a bit paranoid, but there aren't many moggie lovers around, so we have to protect the ones we have. Try
http://www.labour.gov.sk.ca/safety/pamp ... soning.htm or use any search engine.

Post by **jonathon** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:31 pm

Nice one SR

Andy, I agree that lead loading looks great and seems to be inkeeping with the 'old school'/'traditional' ways of car restoration. However modern fillers have come on in leaps and bounds, and now offer a viable alternative to these trad practices. Good quality fillers do have a degree of flex now and will only crack if hit pretty hard. Filler is only moisture absorbant in its raw state, and when painted correctly this aspect no longer poses a problem. Although an advocate of modern products I would love to have a go at lead loading, but maybe not now I have read NZJLY's post.

Post by **Onne** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:34 pm

Well, the same aplies to painting, and filler is not that good for you I suppose, when you inhale the freshly sanded dust...

Post by **jonathon** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:40 pm

Yep, head the on nail Onne

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Rear wings - pattern vs genuine

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