engine out for cam change on 1275 - advice anyone?

Post by **KirstMin** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:08 pm

Hi all, i've now got a mate with a barn and all the equipment needed to take the 1275 engine out of my moggie to change the camshaft (to go with my new stage 3 head). However, not being a 1098 engine any more there isn't instructions to change the cam available in my Haynes manual as it's not an engine out jobbie in the original spec.

Is there any instructions out there to do this job? its an A+ engine so would buying the Ital manual help?

cheers

Post by **Cam** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:12 pm

Yes, the Ital/Marina manual will help.

Post by **KirstMin** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:34 pm

very good. I'll get one. And then come back here when the engine is out and I can't get it back in again

Post by **KirstMin** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:46 pm

something like this cam?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MORRIS-MARINA-HAY ... dZViewItem

Post by **paulk** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:57 pm

Thats the manual Peetee's got to play with his 1275 conversion

We couldn't work out which Marina's had a 1098?

Peetee thought perhaps the Van

Post by **KirstMin** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:09 pm

did any marina have a 1098? Perhaps my initial post looks like I meant that? I actually meant that I have a Haynes manual for my morris minor 1000 but now I have a Ital 1275 A+ in and so the manual I have doesn't help me to replace the camshaft!

Post by **Cam** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:24 pm

Yep, like that manual, but I think I have the Ital one actually...

Changing the cam with the engine out is not too bad a job and it's fairly straight forward. Most of it is fairly obvious. Just make sure you line up the little dots on the cam and crank sprockets when re-fitting...

Post by **Peetee** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:33 pm

Do you need to take the engine out. Wouldn't taking the front panel etc off be enough?

did any marina have a 1098

the Marina manual does state it is for 1098 and 1275 cars but as PaulK says we don't have a clue which model.
Can't imagine it was too popular though - continental drift must have been faster!

Post by **Cam** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:42 pm

Yes, the engine has to come out as there are no tappet chest covers, so the cam followers would fall out IF they will allow the cam to be withdrawn in the first place!

In this case, the usual practice is to turn the engine upside down and change the cam.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:30 pm

Best to inspect the oil pump anyway - and if in doubt fit a new one. I do believe the followers could be held up with 8 strong magnets on sticks - to get the cam out - then lower them inside and recover from below with th sump off. You 'must' fit new followers anyway - but again I think some grease followed by the magnets again would hold them in place to get the cam back in again. May be worth a try ? Other option is to turn the whole car upside down - but that's a bit drastic. What cam are you fitting ? And you should seriously consider fitting duplex timing chain and a crankshaft damper if the engine hasn't got one already. Did all inline 1275engines have crank dampers as standard ?

Post by **rayofleamington** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:17 pm

I do believe the followers could be held up with 8 strong magnets on sticks

If they're really strong magnets - make sure you don't end up with 8 cam followers with magnets attached, and 8 sticks chucked in the dustbin ;-)

Post by **bmcecosse** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:08 pm

Did this job go ahead ? What cam is being fitted ?