Front Panel Fittings?

Post by **Packedup** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:42 pm

I have the inner and outer front panels, an LCV bumper bar and valance, and a pair of wings. What I don't have is much of a clue as to how it all goes on!

I've deduced the top of the outer front panel is bolted to the inner by the top chrome rail, which we've got. Then the front panel bolts to the wing through the hockey sticks, right? With the wing sat behind the panel, I'm guessing?

Other than the top rail and hockey sticks, what else holds what to what, what (if any) chromework should be on the front bumper/ valance, and should there be any rubber strips between any of this? Also, any special fasteners required?

This while thing is being done out of boxes with no diagrams or anything else, and there's only so much I can work out on my own!

Post by **aupickup** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:38 pm

lcv`s had a silver painted shortened front bumper.

Post by **bigginger** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:52 pm

There's two bolts at the top corner of the front panel too, which attach it to the flitch plates, and a few bolts along the botton to the front chassis cross member. I can take some pics tomorrow if you like, just shout.

Post by **Packedup** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:15 pm

Oh knickers, I haven't seen a short painted bumper kicking around. And I don't want to "waste" a half decent saloon setup on this after all the bodges we've had to do

I've got the two bolts on each top part of the inner to inner wing area done (just, nothing seems straight at the front, they were a swine to line up), and the two lower corners (the others don't line up with the welded in repair section, not my fault, I wasn't invloved when that was done!), but the rest of it doesn't seem to lend itself to guesswork. Any pics or diagrams that can point me in the right direction would be greatly appreciated

Post by **bigginger** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:34 pm

I'll see what I can do - I've got a little bit of 'adjusting' to do myself tomorrow to re-fit the front panel - and I did do the welding...

Post by **aupickup** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:44 pm

well of course the front panel is pretty much a fixed point.
bumper irons would locate it at the bottom and the 2 bolts either side at the top would align it there.

the main problem would be the front part of the wing unless you are using original factory wings, although you can get a fair amount of adjustment, but of course you fit the doors first to line up with your b post , and then the front panel and wings , the bonnet again you do not get that amount of adjustment.

Post by **Packedup** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:02 pm

Any news on a couple of pics to help me sort out how it all fits yet?

When fitting the inner front panel I found the two bolts at the top corners were struggling to fit as the inner wings have somehow got misaligned over time. Then the bottom corners were the same. The big bumper bits just about clear, although not with even gaps. All round it's just not straight!

Wings are a pair of what I beleive to be factory, but will have had a couple of repairs by the time they go on. And given how not straight the cab seems to be in general, I'm really looking forward to it, honest...

Still could do with knowing about rubber strips (if any) needed, and any other hints and tips for what goes where and in what order

Post by **bigginger** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:29 pm

I'd forgotten all about it

I'll do some now, sorry...

Post by **Packedup** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:32 pm

Not to worry, I'm sure I can work it all out with a bit of head scratching, just would've been handier to have something to go by

Post by **aupickup** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:43 pm

order of fitting is

front doors ( you need these aligned so you can align the wings)

inner panel (Rad)

wings and outer panel

bumper back iron and then bumper

there should be a rubber strip either side of the inner rad panel to the outer panel

thats about it

Post by **Packedup** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:20 pm

aupickup wrote:order of fitting is

front doors ( you need these aligned so you can align the wings)

Haven't got any doors ready to go on yet, but I'll bear in mind not to put the wings on till they're done

inner panel (Rad)

That'll be with the 2 holes in each upper corner then, and no other fittings (at this time)?

wings and outer panel

Any reason why the outer panel can't go before the wings (as the doors won't be ready for a while)?

bumper back iron and then bumper

And the bumper is meant to have a thin chrome strip I take it? Because I haven't seen one of those around, but do have a useable saloon one. With the big bumper mounts, are the round bits just after the thread meant to sit flush in the holes in the iron? Looks like they should to me, but they don't seem to want to when we've offered it up

there should be a rubber strip either side of the inner rad panel to the outer panel

So that's a trip between the inner and outer panels, but not between the inner and the inner or outer wings then? It's the strips that's worrying me, as there don't seem to be any around, and I'm trying to compile a list of everything we need in one order

thats about it

Thanks

I take it the hockey sticks hold the outer to the front of the wings, the top rail holds the outer and inner together (at the top), and the wing need special washers where it bolts to the inner wing? No sealant or bits of rubber between outer and inner wings, and no unusual or hidden fasteners (anywhere other than where mentioned already) then?

A lot of questions about something that's probably really straight forward I know, but this pickup is like a kit without instructions, makes life a bit interesting

Post by **aupickup** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:27 pm

oh i did forget to mention, fit the grill to the front panel and the ali or chrome strip that goes around it before fixing the panel to the pick up.

hockey sticks can go on last as they hold the front of the wings in position.

you fit the doors first because you have more adjustmant on the wings, and it is easier, also fit doors with the rubber strip around, this simply pushes on.

you can pack out hinges to get better alignment, if the a posts have been repaired.

Post by **Onne** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:27 pm

There shouldn't be a (rubbery) strip between inner and outer wing, only on series MM cars, so don't worry about those!

Post by **aupickup** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:30 pm

hello onne

we are talking about the rubber strip that goes on the front flitch panel to inner rad panel

Post by **Onne** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:34 pm

Sorry for that then, wasn't all clear to me!

Post by **aupickup** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:35 pm

thats ok mate

Post by **wibble_puppy** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:29 pm

can send you photos ad nauseam if you like packedup, i took millions when i was taking my van apart for this restoration. Give me a shout, you've got my email

Post by **Packedup** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:18 pm

Cool

Forgot about this thread, been too busy with everything, but will be cracking on with the pickup tomorrow, I think. Spent today getting the front sub off the freebie Metro, and chopping up the bodywork (what there was left of it!). It's a really sweet engine from what i can tell after a two minute run, I'm in 2 minds about scrapping mine now, but money is the enemy on that one. Shame it's no good for a Minor, as I said to the owner if I flog any of the bits I'm happy (well, OK, not that happy, but it's only fair!) to split the cash with him.

Anyway, enoug off topicness, will be happy to have any photos I can use as a guide

Post by **wibble_puppy** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:23 pm

Packedup wrote: It's a really sweet engine from what i can tell after a two minute run

Nice one!

Packedup wrote:will be happy to have any photos I can use as a guide

*makes note to self*
and remind me if/when i forget mate

Post by **bigginger** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:28 pm

Like what I did (again) - I'll see if I can find back up copies ('puter died..)