My Morris has two of these door mirrors, please see photo.
The offside works ok, but the nearside doesn't have enough adjustment, or is too close to the door, to see rearwards safely. Please suggest what might improve this?
Or maybe they should both be replaced?
Left door mirror
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1967 1098 saloon (known by previous owner as 'Fitzroy')
Renew the perished packing piece and fit two to move it out more. Or look for mirror with longer arm.
Similar mirror no problem seeing but depends on your seating position.
In 2019 when I visited England, I saw a MM with thse mirrors and on the passenger side, the arm was extended.
As I also have the same mirrors and in the same position, this is an idea I would like to do myself. But where to get an extended chrome arm from?
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Sleeper wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2026 5:41 am
Have the same as yours both sides , both work fine, just fitted on the door... moved from the chrome trim for the same reason..
For me, the whole point of these mirrors is that you don't have to drill holes in the body panels. I purchased a pair some years ago and fitted them to the triangular section in front of the quarterlights as many others have done. They give an excellent view along both sides of the car and have transformed my rear vision. I spent some time positioning and adjusting them but certainly didn't have to modify the mountings or lengthen the arms. Are you sure you have fully adjusted yours to the best advantage?
This has been discussed on here before. I have concluded that there is variability in the manufacture of the ball and socket of the mirror -- some owners have no trouble getting enough range of adjustment when it is mounted on the stainless steel triangle of the passenger side, while others have no success. I was one of the latter. I did three things to solve this problem: 1) I changed the orientation of the plate that holds the ball in the socket so that the gap in the plate was positioned so allow extra range of adjustment. 2) I filed the hole in the plate to enlarge it somewhat to allow even more range of adjustment. Still not satisfied... 3) I cast a wedge-shaped block of resin to increase the angle of the mirror even further. The block is shaped to follow the base of the arm and so looks like it belongs there rather than looking like a bodge. As the mounting stud of the arm is no longer perpendicular to the mounting face (ie. the ss triangle) a wedge is also required on the back of the mounting face so that the nut can be fastened correctly.
These days, I would 3D print the wedges rather than casting in resin.
Owners who have mirrors that didn't require any of this messing around must be shaking their heads. But I assure you that all this was necessary in my case. I am very satisfied with the result.
" Doesn't stop you from opening the quarter light? "
Nope, vision and ventilation is 100% , had to replace the s/s trim ( had holes in them from my first fit ) and it doesn't bother me having to drill a hole in the door skin to fit them ....
It's just an old car not a Renoir.
John ;-)
P.S. But it is a tad more difficult with all the gubbins in the door void...
Thank you all.
I have just been looking at my available adjustment and I don't think that is my problem. For me, from my seated driving position, I can't see half of the mirror - it is behind the car's A post. So my conclusion is the mirror needs to be moved. Maybe by a longer arm, or by the wedge idea.
1967 1098 saloon (known by previous owner as 'Fitzroy')
It maybe an illusion of the pic but the arm on yours and the door mounted one looks shorter than mine?
If you rotate your arm clockwise looking from the side the mirror would be further rearward. Then with the three mirror head screws can be used to put the slot to give you more upward tilt to compensate.
Mine is the adjustable seat as far back as it goes with the seat mounts on the rearmost holes, so as far back as possible. Perhaps that also why.
The subject of door mirrors and wing mirrors arises often. Usually, it's the inside mirror (left side mirror for a RHD car) that is the biggest issue.
My car has always had wing mirrors and since I learnt to drive on this car 37 years ago I am more than a little bit used to driving it! I am quite tall (6 foot) but even so, to see the inside wing mirror clearly I do have to sit up straight and lean over a bit. The inside wing mirror is even more critical than it ever was with the "Wild West" state of the UK roads especially in the big cities. I have lost count of the number of times that I have been undertaken on the inside by a bicycle, scooter or moped when I am turning left. Incredibly stupid and dangerous.
To adjust the mirrors easily is better done with an assistant or otherwise it requires repeatedly getting in an out of the car. I have done it on my own using some kind of object, I think the last thing I used was a yard broom to represent a vehicle on my inside.
Remember you can adjust the driver's seat but not whilst you are sitting on it. If that is insufficient you can buy rubber blocks to raise the seat a bit further. If the webbing is old the seat can sag and be too low. It can make a big difference to reupholster the seat or as a stop-gap just use a cushion.
I completely agree it is an important safety consideration.
Stephen
1969 1098cc Convertible “Xavier” which I have owned since 1989.
KevinB wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2026 11:06 am
Thanks Don for the wedge photo.
Before I start fiddling with my mirror, here is a photo of my view inside from my driving position.
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Good photo. I can see the issue but as I said in my post, it is perhaps not entirely realistic to expect to be able to get a good view just by glancing at the mirror from your driving position as you can do in a modern car. For me (with a wing mirror not a door mirror) it requires a very definite "mirror, signal, manoeuvre" whereby I have to sit up and lean over to see the mirror properly. It is just another of the many adaptations to driving required when driving an antique (e.g greater anticipation of other driver's behaviour, longer braking distances, use of the gears to slow down, etc ,etc). My passengers are quite used to me bobbing about whilst driving, I also turn and glance behind when pulling out to the right as I don't completely trust the view from the wing mirror.
Stephen
1969 1098cc Convertible “Xavier” which I have owned since 1989.
