Good afternoon
I am hoping some one can help me, I applied for a Heritage certificate for my 1969 Morris Minor 1000 convertible (Betty) only to be told by them that the vin plate in the engine bay is a repro and incorrect but it is the same number that is in the log book, can anyone help or maybe explain why this might have happened please
Jayne
(proud owner of Betty)
Wrong Vin number in log book and engine bay
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Re: Wrong Vin number in log book and engine bay
Firstly, welcome to the Forum. Secondly, it might be worth narrowing down your location in your profile in case someone local to you can offer further assistance.
When you say the VIN is incorrect do you mean completely different or, for example, one character is wrong? The latter happened to me and was only picked up when someone different did the MoT. A 9 had been misread as a 0.
P.S. My wife is called Jayne (with a y) and my mum was called Betty.
When you say the VIN is incorrect do you mean completely different or, for example, one character is wrong? The latter happened to me and was only picked up when someone different did the MoT. A 9 had been misread as a 0.
P.S. My wife is called Jayne (with a y) and my mum was called Betty.
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Re: Wrong Vin number in log book and engine bay
The most important thing is that the number/details on the VIN plate are the same as the log book.
It is not unknown for a Heritage Certificate to be wrong or that the DVLA information is wrong.
The original VIN plate may have been lost over time and a repro fitted in its place with the numbers copied from the DVLA V5C log sheet.
Unless you are absolutely concerned about the VIN plate numbers I would leave well alone as you may be stirring up a problem that does not exist.
Phil
It is not unknown for a Heritage Certificate to be wrong or that the DVLA information is wrong.
The original VIN plate may have been lost over time and a repro fitted in its place with the numbers copied from the DVLA V5C log sheet.
Unless you are absolutely concerned about the VIN plate numbers I would leave well alone as you may be stirring up a problem that does not exist.
Phil
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Re: Wrong Vin number in log book and engine bay
If the vehicle is old , the change from logbook to computer threw up many transcript errors, usually one one digit out. with a bit of evidence, never had a problem with the DVLA correcting it. My log book had one digit shorter than the plate, sent a photo and they sorted it. Why not pay for a printout from Car Vertical or the like to see if they have it recorded the same?
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Re: Wrong Vin number in log book and engine bay
OK
Given the odd on two lady owners having the same problem in 24 hours, both with a 1969 Minor, let's update people from a summary of what has transpired on a facebook group....
Basically, there's a Digit missing on the V5C and the ID Plate. Car is a '69 but only has a 6 Digit VIN Number, with a M suffix.
It's Gaydon Museum that have picked it up, not the DVLA...
I suspect the final digit has been omitted, as the first part given on facebook was 1258** which would be right for late '69
As I see it, the problem may easily lay with DVLA and their records in the past. But they are not great at admitting their errors.
Things that come to mind...
Is it an original 1969 plate, or has it been given an age related plate after a rebuild at some time. That could easily be where the error has occurred.
Has it had significant welding and repairs done? The original Car Number (just the numbers, no prefix) would have been stamped into the floor under the Drivers Carpet. But this has often been lost when the floor has been replaced.
I would write to DVLA, explain there is an error, and ask that they check their archive to see if they can locate the missing digit on the old records, pre their computer system. They have them all on microfilm archives, possibly scanned by now, but knowing government departments, I doubt it.
Given the odd on two lady owners having the same problem in 24 hours, both with a 1969 Minor, let's update people from a summary of what has transpired on a facebook group....
Basically, there's a Digit missing on the V5C and the ID Plate. Car is a '69 but only has a 6 Digit VIN Number, with a M suffix.
It's Gaydon Museum that have picked it up, not the DVLA...

I suspect the final digit has been omitted, as the first part given on facebook was 1258** which would be right for late '69
As I see it, the problem may easily lay with DVLA and their records in the past. But they are not great at admitting their errors.
Things that come to mind...
Is it an original 1969 plate, or has it been given an age related plate after a rebuild at some time. That could easily be where the error has occurred.
Has it had significant welding and repairs done? The original Car Number (just the numbers, no prefix) would have been stamped into the floor under the Drivers Carpet. But this has often been lost when the floor has been replaced.
I would write to DVLA, explain there is an error, and ask that they check their archive to see if they can locate the missing digit on the old records, pre their computer system. They have them all on microfilm archives, possibly scanned by now, but knowing government departments, I doubt it.
Last edited by geoberni on Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Wrong Vin number in log book and engine bay
Thanks all for your replies, I will get a pic of the plate tomorrow as its dark and effing cold in the garage