Hi,
I am in the process of renovating / restoring my Series 2 and have just stripped out all the old brake pipes to replace them with Cunifer, not just because they are old and tatty but because I intend to use silicone fluid this time round, so I need a clean system.
In removing the union and brake light sensor from the front of the engine bay I realised how grimy it was, so decided to give it a clean and 'tart up' (she will be a working Minor, so I'm not interested in concourse, just clean and tidy). In doing so I discovered what must be the original NMP plate at the front on the passenger side (pictures below).
I have seen allot of posts on this subject over the years but just to clarify, is there any significance to this plate and the number on it or is it just a nice (to still have in place) curio?
I know allot of people are upset that theirs have rotted away or have never been replaced when a replacement panel was welded in, to the extent that these are now remanufactured I believe.
Best wishes,
Mike.
Sally's NMP plate.JPG (1.34 MiB) Viewed 2100 times
Sally's engine bay prior to tart up.JPG (1.26 MiB) Viewed 2100 times
1954 Series 2: 4 door: "Sally" -- Back on the ground with (slave) wheels and waiting to be resprayed......
1970 Triumph Herald 1200: "Hetty" -- Driven back from Llangollen in Wales (twice.....)
1952 Morris Minor MM highlight with sidevalve engine still fitted, wants work, so joins the queue for now......
To me it is important that the plate is in place as it is tied in with the number plate screwed to the bulkhead on the N/S just under the bonnet seal.
The number on the bulkhead can be unscrewed and changed - the plate you refer to cannot be easily changed and gives a provenance
that the bulkhead plate cannot.
If I was looking to purchase a shell I would be looking to see that both plates are in place and the numbers correspond.
Having all the number helps in identifying the vehicle.
If I was looking to purchase a shell I would be looking to see that both plates are in place and the numbers correspond.
Thought I'd better check after that point, fortunately it's a match.
Sally's engine bay is now feeling a little grey......... Clarendon Grey to be precise......
Like I said it's just a tart / tidy up (all rust treated before painting though) but its looks allot better than it did, even good......... from a distance!
She wears her scars well!
The outside will eventually be properly painted, by someone who knows what they are doing......
That will be a 'screens out' job, so I'm really looking forward to that..............
Best wishes,
Mike.
Sally's engine bay after the tart up.JPG (1019.67 KiB) Viewed 2048 times
1954 Series 2: 4 door: "Sally" -- Back on the ground with (slave) wheels and waiting to be resprayed......
1970 Triumph Herald 1200: "Hetty" -- Driven back from Llangollen in Wales (twice.....)
1952 Morris Minor MM highlight with sidevalve engine still fitted, wants work, so joins the queue for now......
Ian
Looking at the chassis plates on my own Minor there does not appear to be a correlation between the body stamped numbers on the bulkhead, the vehicle identification plate the plate below the bonnet seal and the NMP plate. The only correlation appears to be between the plate below the bonnet seal and the NMP plate. Seperatly the vehicle identification plate and the body stamped numbers.
Others may have a view.
There are two numbers on the NMP plate and those are replicated on the plate under the bonnet seal.
There is a second plate under the bonnet seal but unfortunately it is somewhat covered in fiberglass (to fireproof the bulkhead holes) so is not fully readable.
On my ‘54 there are two small plates under the top bonnet seal and above the fuel pump. One repeats the numbers from the NMP plate, the smaller one says BM118404 which bears no relation to any other number on the car so that one’s a mystery.
If I remember correctly there was a post (or posts) on here relating to and explaining the background to the second number plate but have yet to find it
The second plate from the left looking from the front of the car and situated under the bonnet seal does not have the NMP number stamped on it.
The first plate from the left looking from the front of the car and situated under the bonnet seal does have the same number as the NMP plate.
Phil
Tidier than it did Ian.
It's coming together now the wiring is back in place, new cunifer brake pipes, horn etc., a way to go yet though and there will come a point where the lockdown will hold things up.
Ironic, because it's given me the time to really crack on but there will come a point where I need the involvement of others......
C'est la vie.
Best wishes,
Mike.
1954 Series 2: 4 door: "Sally" -- Back on the ground with (slave) wheels and waiting to be resprayed......
1970 Triumph Herald 1200: "Hetty" -- Driven back from Llangollen in Wales (twice.....)
1952 Morris Minor MM highlight with sidevalve engine still fitted, wants work, so joins the queue for now......
Apologies for hijacking your thread.
My '65 2 door also has the original NMP plate fitted but the tie plate is goosed and will need to be replaced.
I intend to refit the NMP plate to the new Tie plate even though the panel will not be original, just to keep it with the car.
I don't have any plans to sell my Minor so its just for my own pleasure.
But will people think my Minor is a ringer with the old plate fitted to a new panel??
I wouldn’t worry about it, plenty of Minors have replacement tie plates with or without the NMP plate. You could always keep a photo record of the work.
As Ian says, don't worry and just refit it.
You will probably actually gain 'bonus points', as so many on here are upset by the fact that their NMP plates have just been discarded when the panel has been replaced on so many Minors in the past.
Best wishes,
Mike.
1954 Series 2: 4 door: "Sally" -- Back on the ground with (slave) wheels and waiting to be resprayed......
1970 Triumph Herald 1200: "Hetty" -- Driven back from Llangollen in Wales (twice.....)
1952 Morris Minor MM highlight with sidevalve engine still fitted, wants work, so joins the queue for now......
I for one, am quite glad mine wasn't refitted following replacement of the tie panel (along with nearside chassis leg), because they tend to trap moisture underneath and cause a rust spot.
