The fall and rise of the shudder

Post by **Multiphonikks** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:15 pm

Hi folks!

Yet another weekend nearly over (and I've only just started to relax after recovering from last week!)

Anyway...

Hebe now has her M.O.T. Fantastically the guy who sorted out her few failure points had a play with the door (I think) on the driver's side since it now closes a lot better than it did and there are no horrible gaps at the top for the wind to come howling through!

Hebe's creaking back end which we had almost every time we pulled away has now gone so I suspect the culprit was the incorrectly fitted spring hanger plate from when she had the accident repairs. However, she's still shuddering on reverse and on pulling away. When it's just me in the car she's absolutely fine and doesn't make horrid noises and when I have passengers the shuddering is sporadic.

Take, for example, the trip we had on Friday to cribb's causeway. She shuddered on every pulling away regardless of it being forwards or backwards. Pyoor Kate also commented that Hebe had been shuddering on the way to the MOT too.

But then today the same passengers who came with me on Friday went out with me in the car and there was no sign of shudders at all.

Hebe does this from time to time and I wonder if anyone has any suggestions to the causes?

The gearbox cable is the correct taugtness (at least by my reckoning), the engine stays are fine, and as far as I can tell the clutch is okay (other than me needing to change the travel on the clutch as the biting point is a bit close to the floor...

The only thing I can possibly think of right now is perhaps something to do with moisture. It was quite late on Friday night (and it was quite cold and wet) and today it's been a lot warmer and drier.

Anyone else experience similar problems in similar situations? Hebe's certainly screeching as I'd expect if the clutch was slipping...

Post by **rayofleamington** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:22 pm

The gearbox cable is the correct taugtness (at least by my reckoning),

It's not actually meant to have any taughtness (tension). It's only meant to have the slack removed.

Post by **Multiphonikks** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:10 pm

Nope... it's not taught... it's not slack.. that kind of... inbetweenyness

Post by **bmcecosse** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:17 pm

Sounds like clutch judder - new clutch plate prescribed.

Post by **Multiphonikks** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:19 pm

~*sigh*... that's what I thought.

Since my Gearbox needs a bit of an overhaul I may research a new one...and then do the clutch at the same time

Post by **moggyminor16** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:43 pm

nikki

i got a gearbox here there is no play on the spline by hand so should be o.k i hope your if you need it still goot that blooming engine as well kate not want it if you got any stainless door tops ill do a swop for gearbox
i have the same judder in the traveller i rev a bit more and radio on louder that seems to get rid of it and my clutch is at the top

http://www.geocities.com/moggyminor16/m ... oggys.html

Post by **Multiphonikks** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:00 am

Hi Chris... Hmmmm

I think that may be quite useful. Can It wait a few more since we're still waiting to move

?

Post by **Kevin** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:12 pm

the engine stays are fine

Are you sure they are not done up too tight either as this doesnt help.

Hebe's certainly screeching as I'd expect if the clutch was slipping...

Clutch slip is not assosiated with screeching thats usually the bearing, clutch slip is when you put you foot down and the engine revs rise faster than the car is actually going especailly on hills.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:06 pm

Screeching is a loose fan belt !! Nothing to do with the clutch.

Post by **rayofleamington** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:33 pm

Funny how the fanbelt only comes loose on Wilberforce when you half press the clutch! That's a new one on me.

Post by **Multiphonikks** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:41 pm

Thanks Ray, I thought I was going mad

Post by **rayofleamington** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:43 pm

I thought I was going mad

That was last week - now you can only get sane ;-)