8" brake upgrade
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8" brake upgrade
I recently acquired a very nice 1958 4 door which has, of course, 7" brakes.
Going down a very steep country road recently I was quite alarmed by the extent of fade.
I have a pair of 8" drums in my garage and so I am thinking about increasing the braking capacity and reducing the fade.
Could someone please tell me if I am correct in assuming that, in addition to the drums, I just need 8" backplates and shoes and that the cylinders are simply swapped over.
Or am I completely wrong?
regards
Chris
Going down a very steep country road recently I was quite alarmed by the extent of fade.
I have a pair of 8" drums in my garage and so I am thinking about increasing the braking capacity and reducing the fade.
Could someone please tell me if I am correct in assuming that, in addition to the drums, I just need 8" backplates and shoes and that the cylinders are simply swapped over.
Or am I completely wrong?
regards
Chris
1958 4 door Morris Minor birch grey
1937 Austin Seven Ruby
1937 Austin Seven Ruby
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Re: 8" brake upgrade
You're correct. The cylinders are the same - although I would probably fit new ones unless you know that yours are in a very good condition. You'll need the correct pull-off springs for the larger brakes as well as the shoes and backplates and the metal link pipes are also different.
Re: 8" brake upgrade
The metal linkpipes may stretch over ok - depends how tight they have been made.



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Re: 8" brake upgrade
Very many thanks to you both!
I do have a brake pipe flaring kit if needed.
And yes, I will need the correct pull-off springs
regards
Chris
I do have a brake pipe flaring kit if needed.
And yes, I will need the correct pull-off springs
regards
Chris
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Re: 8" brake upgrade
I believe the adjusters are larger on 8" brakes too . Regards Andrew .
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Re: 8" brake upgrade
Hi Phil
I have replied
regards
Chris
I have replied
regards
Chris
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Re: 8" brake upgrade
Hi Andrew,
Thanks. I have come across this on a previous post.
BMC suggested shims underneath would correct when the shoes wear down low
Chris
Thanks. I have come across this on a previous post.
BMC suggested shims underneath would correct when the shoes wear down low
Chris
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Re: 8" brake upgrade
Yes - shims can be located under the tail of the shoes to help keep them 'square' to the drum. But the larger adjusters should be used if you can find a set.



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Re: 8" brake upgrade
8" brake adjuster snails (S/H) are available from ESM. As a last resort the 7" snail carrier/mask can be carefully modified to accept the 8" snail.
http://www.morrisminorspares.com/brakes ... nd-p829451
or new with snail carrier/mask
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MORRIS-Minor- ... SwEK9T0D8W
The size of the snail pin that the 8" brake shoe rests upon has a larger diameter than the 7" snail pin - the 8" snail must be used as the forces acting on the 8" pin are greater. The use of a 7" snail with an 8" brake shoe could see the snail fail resulting a loss of brakes
Phil
http://www.morrisminorspares.com/brakes ... nd-p829451
or new with snail carrier/mask
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MORRIS-Minor- ... SwEK9T0D8W
The size of the snail pin that the 8" brake shoe rests upon has a larger diameter than the 7" snail pin - the 8" snail must be used as the forces acting on the 8" pin are greater. The use of a 7" snail with an 8" brake shoe could see the snail fail resulting a loss of brakes
Phil
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Re: 8" brake upgrade
OK all noted re the snails...."Snail Fail" to be avoided
Thanks!
Thanks!
1958 4 door Morris Minor birch grey
1937 Austin Seven Ruby
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