alloys

Post by **Cam** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:20 am

No, the MG B wheels won't fit. But the MG Midget wheels will.

I THINK the MGB rims are 5J (I think) as I have 165s on mine (standard size). On my Minor I have 5.5J rims with 175 front and 185 rear.

Post by **picky** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:49 pm

MGB wheels DONT fit? lucky I was outbid then

Post by **Cam** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:58 pm

Nope. The PCD is different. Did someone tell you that they did fit?

Post by **picky** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:36 pm

Urm.. long story...nobobdy acutally told me that they would fit, just that I saw the pic of your MBG GT had the "rostyle" alloys on, and the pic of another morris with those wheels on too that you quoted in a previous message, I assumed that the PCD would be the same. But when the bids went into threee figures I thought I'd better check

Tim

Post by **rayofleamington** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:59 pm

picky,
You could just get a set of the Minor wide Van rims...
Then you can use them without spacers and up to 165 on the front (you can easily go 175 on the rear)

Post by **Cam** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:03 am

I get you now. The difference is that you saw the 13" Midget Rostyles on the Moggy and thought they were the same as the 14" Rostyles on the MGB......... understandable!

Glad you were outbid though!

Post by **picky** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:27 pm

Yeah, maybe I wont become a police detective!!
I'm wondering about trying to fit wheels that have a 100mm PCD. Because although theoretically they wont fit, 4" is 101.6mm. So the difference is 1.6mm, but as there are 4 wheels studs each wheel stud has to deal with only 0.4mm of difference!!! the tolerance could mean that the studs are easily out by that much anyway.
I know I could go for van wheels, but I want alloys to add a bit of extra style:)

Post by **bigginger** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:21 pm

I think the answer has to be that the Minor's wheel studs are stupidly thin anyway. Putting wider wheels on will put a little extre strain on them, and bending them about will put on a bit more - and it will be constantly changing as the wheel revolves, the same sort of action as bending a bit of wire until it breaks. Probably better not to, and live to enjoy them.

Post by **jonathon** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:33 pm

Not only is it important to use the correct PCD ,you must also have the same centerbore. It is bad engineering to make a PCD fit your requirements,i.e elongating holes etc, its just asking for trouble. The centerbore must be correct otherwise the studs will be the only items retaining the wheel,with nothing to centralise it, causing not only wheel shake but potentially erosion of the alloy wheel material and its failure. There are companies supplying the correct set up for minor alloys, although these tend only to be the Minilight style. Companies like Compomotive will build wheels to your specification, at not too an exhorbitant cost. You must not increase the wheel /tyre width by too much as the added loadings will take their toll on a wheel stud not designed to do so. Remember too that you should check your suspension geometry when you have fitted your alloys. This area of the cars set up is overlooked by the majority of owners, but the difference a correctly set up car has over a neglected one is stunning,especially if you tweek a few of the perameters.

Post by **Peetee** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:14 am

Remember too that you should check your suspension geometry when you have fitted your alloys. This area of the cars set up is overlooked by the majority of owners

And the manufacuturers too somethimes!. I have first hand experience of a eurobox with poor front suspension alignment (from the factory and not adjustable). It had all the grip you could want in the dry but forget it if you wanted it to go round bends in the wet!
Nice, light steering though

Post by SR » Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:23 am

street cred with a capital str

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 58622&rd=1

Post by **picky** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:28 am

SR,
since they are 7" wide would they not need spacers on a standard moggie setup? would look good though even if the wheels cant turn

Post by SR » Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:26 pm

ello mate ,depends what offset is. ive got some 10" wide rims that fit straight on the rear .steve

Post by **bigginger** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:44 pm

According to the seller, the offset's "-7" - I dom't know if that means they'd be OK, just for info!
a

Post by **picky** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 7:52 pm

10"!?! I thought that if the wheels stick out too far from the wing then legally you have to fit wider wheel arches. Is this the case?

Post by **Onne** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 7:57 pm

Weren't wheels allowed to stick out 1 inch? don't know for sure, and how about 4x4s?

Post by **jonathon** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:07 pm

The wheel of a car must be inline with the wheel arch to pass an MOT, however this does seem to be somewhat dicretional at some stations.
A 10" rim with the osffset described will if it fits and I don't believe it will, throw your geomerty out , i.e the ackerman angle which should end at the center of your wheel.

Post by SR » Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:23 pm

check it out jonathon

Post by **jonathon** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:53 pm

Is that a 10" rim, if it is and its inside the arch, I stand corrected. I'd like to see if it fits on the front with out changing the geometry, if it does I'll eat me hat!!!! yuk!!

Post by **bigginger** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:53 pm

...and how about on the front?:) Thought you flogged them, anyhow?