Rolling a car - advice needed please
Forum rules
By using this site, you agree to our rules. Please see: Terms of Use
By using this site, you agree to our rules. Please see: Terms of Use
-
- Minor Addict
- Posts: 798
- Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:01 pm
- Location: Aston Clinton, Aylesbury, Bucks or Oxford during term time
- MMOC Member: No
Rolling a car - advice needed please
Hi all,
I am just starting to tackle the restoration of my brother's traveller.
currently it has the engine out and the wood off.
it needs some welding underneath and, having turned mine over as a totally bare shell to weld it, i dont really want to be lying on the floor getting set on fire if i can help it. I have borrowed a grumpys rollover jig (need to fabricate some legs though) but wondered about the brake fluid situation -- obviously with a vented cap, it would all leak out, but if i were to fir a non-vented cap (as for disc brakes) would i be able to get away without draining the fluid?
thoughts greatly appreciated.
Matt
I am just starting to tackle the restoration of my brother's traveller.
currently it has the engine out and the wood off.
it needs some welding underneath and, having turned mine over as a totally bare shell to weld it, i dont really want to be lying on the floor getting set on fire if i can help it. I have borrowed a grumpys rollover jig (need to fabricate some legs though) but wondered about the brake fluid situation -- obviously with a vented cap, it would all leak out, but if i were to fir a non-vented cap (as for disc brakes) would i be able to get away without draining the fluid?
thoughts greatly appreciated.
Matt
http://www.flickr.com/photos/46862234@N ... 671969048/
http://www.facebook.com/matttomkins
Misty, Morris Minor 2-door, 1970,
fully restored with the help of various of the young members to whom i am forever grateful. http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=43571
Also Mavis, 1960 Factory Tourer, and a '69 Traveller project: http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=53487
Join the young owners at: https://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/gr ... [sig]11392[/sig]
Re: Rolling a car - advice needed please
I would just drain the fluid - you'll surely be overhauling the brakes anyway? But a thickish bit of plastic bag under the normal cap will keep the fluid in meantime. Drain the axle....



-
- Minor Legend
- Posts: 3056
- Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:17 pm
- Location: Gloucester
- MMOC Member: No
Re: Rolling a car - advice needed please
Read somewhere about Traveller's "flexing" when being rotated - I
suppose it depends on the extent of rot(?)
suppose it depends on the extent of rot(?)
Further investigations uncovered it was an inside job!!
-
- Minor Addict
- Posts: 798
- Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:01 pm
- Location: Aston Clinton, Aylesbury, Bucks or Oxford during term time
- MMOC Member: No
Re: Rolling a car - advice needed please
mechanically, the car is great and comes with a lot of service history including recent replacement of much of the braking system.
this isnt going to be a full rebuild, just a 'get it on the road' job now he''s 17, so i'm trying to avoid touching anything which isnt essential tbh.
wrt rolling causing flexing - surely only the same as jacking up on one corner??? i did it with mine (allbeit a bare shell) without problems. though i take the point and may consider fitting the rollover jig to the wheels, and only tipping it up to 45* on either side to replace the sills.
I dont suppose anyone on here anywhere up the m1 (my other half lives the opposite end of the country to me so i pass regularly) has any huge axle stands i could borrow to give me more working height?
M
this isnt going to be a full rebuild, just a 'get it on the road' job now he''s 17, so i'm trying to avoid touching anything which isnt essential tbh.
wrt rolling causing flexing - surely only the same as jacking up on one corner??? i did it with mine (allbeit a bare shell) without problems. though i take the point and may consider fitting the rollover jig to the wheels, and only tipping it up to 45* on either side to replace the sills.
I dont suppose anyone on here anywhere up the m1 (my other half lives the opposite end of the country to me so i pass regularly) has any huge axle stands i could borrow to give me more working height?
M
http://www.flickr.com/photos/46862234@N ... 671969048/
http://www.facebook.com/matttomkins
Misty, Morris Minor 2-door, 1970,
fully restored with the help of various of the young members to whom i am forever grateful. http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=43571
Also Mavis, 1960 Factory Tourer, and a '69 Traveller project: http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=53487
Join the young owners at: https://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/gr ... [sig]11392[/sig]
-
- Minor Fan
- Posts: 149
- Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:41 pm
- Location: dronfield
- MMOC Member: No
Re: Rolling a car - advice needed please
brakes may want bleeding due to air entering at master cylinder when car is turned on its side|.I find it better to do as much welding as possible with car on its wheels so as to keep an eye on the shut lines, then roll it on its side to clean all old underseal off and repaint, graham
[sig]8872[/sig]
-
- Minor Fan
- Posts: 397
- Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:51 am
- Location: Wantage, Oxon
- MMOC Member: Yes
Re: Rolling a car - advice needed please
I plan to do this later and just wondered if you guys roll it onto a mattress or something to protect the side when rolled?
I plan to roll it over onto grass.
I plan to roll it over onto grass.
-
- Minor Fan
- Posts: 149
- Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:41 pm
- Location: dronfield
- MMOC Member: No
Re: Rolling a car - advice needed please
yes i rolled mine onto a matress, but that was with a totally bare shell, no wings no doors no engine or g/box, hope this helps, graham
[sig]8872[/sig]
-
- Minor Legend
- Posts: 3703
- Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:28 pm
- Location: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire.
- MMOC Member: Yes
Re: Rolling a car - advice needed please
Hi Matt,
It's suddenly struck me, looking at your signature photo, that you are single-handedly saving all the grey cars!!
How's your Traveller by the way, does it have glass and a lock on the rear doors yet?
Best wishes,
Mike.
It's suddenly struck me, looking at your signature photo, that you are single-handedly saving all the grey cars!!

How's your Traveller by the way, does it have glass and a lock on the rear doors yet?
Best wishes,
Mike.
1954 Series 2: 4 door: "Sally" -- Back on the ground with (slave) wheels, now being sprayed by me, slowly......
1970 Triumph Herald 1200: "Hetty" -- Driven back from Llangollen in Wales (twice.....)
1952 Morris Minor MM highlight with sidevalve engine still fitted, wants work, so joins the queue for now......
1970 Triumph Herald 1200: "Hetty" -- Driven back from Llangollen in Wales (twice.....)
1952 Morris Minor MM highlight with sidevalve engine still fitted, wants work, so joins the queue for now......
-
- Minor Legend
- Posts: 3287
- Joined: Tue May 20, 2008 9:24 pm
- Location: Co.Mayo Ireland
- MMOC Member: Yes
Re: Rolling a car - advice needed please
could you bolt in some diagonal struts from top of b-post to lower rear panel fixing brackets ( on the same side of car ) for wood ladder section ( i think thats what its called ) and then some cross bracing as well eg top r/h b-post to lower l/h fixing bracket, do you understand what i mean
Ian
Ian
-
- Minor Addict
- Posts: 798
- Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:01 pm
- Location: Aston Clinton, Aylesbury, Bucks or Oxford during term time
- MMOC Member: No
Re: Rolling a car - advice needed please
thanks for the advice so far. I think what i'll do, then, is use the roller as a tilter instead and jack it up nicely to 30* or something and see how it goes. Just a coupe of sills on the underneath really.
The back is now off and needs pretty much entirely replacing.
this one's a mixture of whites, but will probably go back to its original oew.
pics attached. sorry for slow response, been manic end of term at uni plus two days spent so far on the car.[frame]
[/frame][frame]
[/frame][frame]
[/frame][frame]
[/frame]
The back is now off and needs pretty much entirely replacing.
this one's a mixture of whites, but will probably go back to its original oew.
pics attached. sorry for slow response, been manic end of term at uni plus two days spent so far on the car.[frame]
http://www.flickr.com/photos/46862234@N ... 671969048/
http://www.facebook.com/matttomkins
Misty, Morris Minor 2-door, 1970,
fully restored with the help of various of the young members to whom i am forever grateful. http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=43571
Also Mavis, 1960 Factory Tourer, and a '69 Traveller project: http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=53487
Join the young owners at: https://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/gr ... [sig]11392[/sig]