History of VWJ590

Post by **Onne** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:53 pm

Does anyone know anything about my beloved Moggy? She's now registered in The Netherlands, since '99. She's a lovely black 2dr saloon and has chassisnr 404700, and she's a series II, although appearing to be a 1000

Post by **Cam** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:15 pm

Does she have a split windscreen (2 section)? Of yes then she's a series 2 if no then she's a 1000.

I have not got my reference book to hand but someone on here should be able to tell you what she is from the chassis number. Also what are the prefix letters to the number?

Post by **Onne** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:42 pm

She has a split screen indeed, and the old taillights and she's got trafficators. Do you know if there was a lot of difference between the Series II and 1000 bonnet? Cause it says 1000 on the side. She has also got an other engine (10MA etc.) She's black with creme grille and wheels. The chassis number isn't on it's original place, so all it says is 404700, and she was first registered 10-02-1956 so she should be a series II

Post by **Cam** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:45 pm

Yes, the split-screen bonnets have a 'V' to accept the windscreen shape. The Minor 1000 ones are curved next to the windscreen. Otherwise they are the same. Sounds like someone has put Minor 1000 badges on. It SHOULD say 'MORRIS MINOR'

There were many different styles of tail light.

When you say 'old' tail lights do you mean this type:

Yours should be the same except with a painted base where the chrome is.

Your car is a series II.

Post by **Onne** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:57 pm

Those are indeed Elisabeths taillights
Unfortunately, I can't check out her bonnet, as she is currently undergoing anti-corrosion treatment (her birthday present) Sheé having her 49th birthday on Feb 10th

Post by **Cam** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:06 pm

Well, those lights are early Minor 1000 ones. Late series 2 ones should have a half painted / half chrome base. I don't have my reference book to hand so I can't tell you the exact date when they changed over. Maybe someone on here can. If not then I can tell you at the weekend when I get back home.

Post by **Onne** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:21 pm

Cam wrote:Well, those lights are early Minor 1000 ones. Late series 2 ones should have a half painted / half chrome base. I don't have my reference book to hand so I can't tell you the exact date when they changed over. Maybe someone on here can. If not then I can tell you at the weekend when I get back home.

Mine haven't got any chrome at their base

Post by **bigginger** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:31 pm

Can't track down that change in any of my books, sorry.All I can find is the fact that in '51 there was a nickel shortage, so the grille and hub caps were painted, not chromed, which might be related!
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Post by **bigginger** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:35 pm

Chassis numbers 4***** seem to be '55/'56-ish, so very late series II seems a reasonable bet for now - I'll try and find more.
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Post by **bigginger** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:45 pm

Right, this site http://www.auto-part.com/auto/shop/vin.asp - has the chassis number as one of the last series II's. The ran to 448714.
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Post by **Onne** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:54 pm

bigginger wrote:Chassis numbers 4***** seem to be '55/'56-ish, so very late series II seems a reasonable bet for now - I'll try and find more.
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I saw on some website that they started the 1000 series on september 25th 1956, Élisabeth was registered(and thus built before) 10-02-1956

Post by **Cam** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:43 pm

Oh yours is definately series II (ALL 1000s don't have the split-screen). But I was trying to determine if you had the correct rear light units.........

Post by **Onne** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:51 pm

Cam wrote:Oh yours is definately series II (ALL 1000s don't have the split-screen). But I was trying to determine if you had the correct rear light units.........

Oh rightio then, then there's the bonnet, how can I see if it's a original series II one, cause it says Minor 1000 on the sides

Post by **Cam** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:01 pm

Oh rightio then, then there's the bonnet, how can I see if it's a original series II one, cause it says Minor 1000 on the sides

Simple! The Minor 1000 ones won't fit a split-screen car!

Post by **Onne** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:06 pm

Never ever?... cool, then it's a lot easier just replacing those badges saying minor 1000 by Morris Minor eh

Post by **Cam** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:08 pm

Yep! You will notice that your bonnet has a V shape to fit near the windscreen. The Minor 1000 ones don't. They have a gentle curve instead, so they are not interchangeable.

The badges saying Morris Minor are still available and are about £3 or so each I think.

Post by **Onne** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:11 pm

Via the morrisminorshop, like those chassisplates I think?

Post by **Cam** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:28 pm

Yes, but they are £5 from ESM. Maybe that's OK, but I got mine from a rally at maybe a reduced price.

http://shop.morrisminorspares.co.uk/pro ... c32040a771