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Joe-54
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Hello from Joe.

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Hello all. :D

Introductory post from a new forum member, so you might want to make a brew and get the digestives out as it'll take a while.

I'm Joe, I've been driving for nearly 40 years during which time I've owned lots of different cars. Some of the more recent cars I've owned are considered 'classic cars', while others such as the Cortina 1600E, Vauxhall Victor VX-4/90, or the Mk1 Ford Consul and Granada Ghias I used to own weren't considered classics back when I had them as they were recent models!


So, on to why I'm here, and of course the Morris Minor which is a car I have never owned - my Dad had one in the early 1970's though, the relevance of which I'll come to later. Right, well I'll start by saying that I've always loved old cars... even when they weren't thought of as 'old' at the time. Growing up in the early 1960's, the roads filled with Singers and Sunbeams, pastel coloured Zephyrs and Zodiacs, or the rakishly designed new Anglia's and Cortinas' somehow coloured my judgement. Amidst this post austerity explosion of automotive glitz and glamour the Morris Minor, though omnipresent, never caught my eye. To me it still represented the austerity of the previous decade, often in muted colours it was the sensible car choice of my school masters - they of the leather elbow patches.

The one my dad had was a 1966 Trafalgar blue two door which was (we thought) in superb condition. Faultlessly reliable, it drove very well indeed I'm told. Back then I never really considered it to be a classic as, like the VW Beetle,there were just so many of them about they seemed commonplace. Those same sentiments were to seal the fate of dad's minor, as despite looking superb it failed an MOT for want of welding underneath, and the mechanic told my old man it would be cheaper to scrap it and buy another. Today we know these things are fixable, but in 1975 they weren't considered worth fixing, and the poor little blue 2 door went along to the scrapyard at just 9 years old. Incidentally, a couple of years later my Aunt's 1972 VW Beetle with pristine bodywork suffered the same fate following the advice of another MOT mechanic! :(

During the 1970's and 80's I drove a string of cars that are considered to be classics today but to me were just 'cars'. My idea of a classic car back then was something from the 1940's or 50's, preferably with a separate chassis, like a Ford Pilot. Again no journey was complete however, without noting the Morris Minor was in evidence, dotted as they were in many side streets and driveways.

By the 1990's my increasing exasperation at such fitments to modern cars as black box ignition, entire moulded headlamp/flasher units that need to be replaced instead of just the bulb, and other such idiocies that made owning a modern vehicle no more involving than owning a new fridge saw me rebel. I noted that one of the most unpopular and unappreciated cars of the time was the Citroen 2cv, a car which typically raised hoots of derision from the general populace. People actually gave those things away for free - a tendency that had me accumulate several! :P Ignoring the fact that friends and family thought I'd lost the plot, I spent a decade or so driving the little French marvels which asked for nothing in return but a little TLC now and again.

Today the 2cv's are long gone, and once again I drive a modern-ish car. A Honda Accord. Clinical, comfortable, efficient, and totally un-involving - I can't even bring myself to wash it.

Now age does a funny thing to a person. In my youth I was compliant, wanting to be accepted by my peers, in my 30's I was competitive, and in my 40's combatative. Today I care less for the impression people have of me and more about what makes me happy, hence the recent decision to buy a Morris Minor to replace the Honda as my sole form of transport. You see I've realized that after a lifetime of distractions the answer has been staring me in the face all along. Those little cars I had cast nary a glance at all my life are still around, while their replacements have long been consigned to the dustbin. Spares (I am led to believe) are plentiful, and there is a genuine satisfaction and pride of ownership to be had - Count me in!

So now I'm on a steep learning curve. I'm trying to build up my knowledge of the Minor so I'll know my MM from my elbow by summer. I've been quietly reading through some of your restoration threads as well as looking at many of the cars shown in various posts. In addition to building up my knowledge I'm slowly identifying the sort of car I would like to buy, and so far I'm leaning toward an older two door, if possible in clipper blue. There's a car in the thread below that would have been just the job for me.http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=40071 I don't know what model designation that car has but with a 1098 installed I'd call it a car for life. :D

That said I realize there are so many nice cars out there that it would be silly to put restraints of colour/spec on a potential purchase. When the time comes my budget will only stretch to around 3k max however, and I'm in no hurry to buy as I've yet to build a garage on the side of the house to house it. So there you are, that's me and my plans to buy a car that will hopefully remain with me for many years. I'll no doubt get to know some of you better over the coming months, and look forward to shedding my modern vehicle in due time in favour of an old Moggie that I can have some fun with. In today's world which to me increasingly makes little sense, how apt that I may end up driving the car I once considered 'too sensible'!
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Welcome to the forum Joe & I hope you are successful in your future purchase
All the best
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Hi Joe,
Shameless plug, i know, but take a look at this advert here and let me know if you might be interested. http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=53278
got one potentially very interested party, but no deposit taken yet, so still open to offers.
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Also Mavis, 1960 Factory Tourer, and a '69 Traveller project: http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=53487

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Welcome from another Minor fan in Lancashire
I am on my third Minor, the first two owned and loved but sadly not compatible with a growing family.
Hopefully this one is for keeps as the kids are now old enough to sort themselves out ( who am I kidding).
I too enjoy all things old but have always leaned toward the Minor after playing in them as a kid in the scrapyard, in the days before health and safety.
I respect all owners and the work they put in on their cars, but have always leaned to the view that a 50 year old car should look like a 50 year old car, and, as my Minor is, be used daily as the designers intended. So respect for ditching the modern car for a Morris.
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Thanks for the welcome fella's.

db6431 There are two Minors local to me that I see scooting along the A49 quite often. One is an original condition green or blue 2 door (I've only ever seen it at night) and the other an immaculate white estate car. As I only do about 6000 miles a year I'm hoping a Minor will cope admirably with that sort of mileage, especially as it will be very well looked after.

Matt that' looks a lovely example, I saw it on ebay. If you still have it when I'm ready to buy then I'd certainly be interested in taking a look but I really want the garage built first, which may mean I miss some good cars in the meantime. I've decided I want a car that just needs maintaining rather than restoring, so something like yours would suit me well.

Now I'm off to read a few more resto threads, as although I couldn't do it myself I do admire those who can. :wink:
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Hi Joe plenty of Minors about but go for one with a good body and no patch work welding
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Hi Joe
You are lucky to see a couple of Minors, I am just south of Preston and have only seen one Minor that followed me a bit, but I suppose I mainly travel the same roads at the same time, where are all the Lancashire Minors?, I love to see them on the road.
The. Lancs branch meet in Leyland once a month and it's on my list of to do's to go along, hope they like my slightly tatty 4 door saloon!!
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David I live just a couple of miles south of Leyland. Are you a MMOC member?

Irmscher thank you, yes I shall be rather careful when I buy. Unfortunately I've never been very good at biding my time so have on occasion jumped the gun when buying cars only to be disappointed. I'll try harder this time. It may take a while longer but I want to find a 'keeper'. :)

I've just ordered some MM related books online to try and get up to speed with my knowledge of the cars, can anyone recommend a good one? There are many questions I have but rather than pester forum members with questions they will no doubt have answered a thousand times I thought I'd put the work in and read up on stuff myself.

Just familiarising myself with the Minor colours used over the years. I'm liking Clarendon grey, smoke grey and Clipper blue, but of course I know it's more about the cars condition than colour so I must be flexible. Also interiors, what year did leather stop? And the spoked steering wheel can it be fitted to later cars?
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Hi Joe
Just got my MMOC membership through this weekend, the car now proudly sports a MMOC club sticker on the windscreen.
We are in Lostock Hall so not so far. On the A6 near Chorley there is a car parts shop that specialises in Morris Minors by the name of Leadbetters, well worth a visit as they sometimes have ads of Minors for sale.
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Thanks I'll look out for that shop. I'll join the MMOC too I think.
I Found answers to most of the questions I had by using the search, the only question left concerns tall drivers. As I understand it the drivers seat is not adjustable? I'm 6ft and 16 stone - will I fit?
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Welcome to the board.
I think it was said that a policeman could wear his helmet in a Minor so I wouldn't worry.
Were you in the 2CV owners club? They were much more adventurous with their overseas trips, went to Moscow while I was a member (I didn't go).

"Once you break something you will see how it was put together"
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Hi
In my 1965 minor the drivers seat does adjust forward and back, But the passenger seat does not unless you unbolt it as there are a few different hole locations for it. I am 6 foot tall and find the car comfortable.
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Hi Joe.
I'm 6'5" and 15 stone, and I drove my "66" Traveller for at least 25 years until the original seat collapsed when the framework broke! The seat was adjustable, and there were at least two positions on the car floor that the mounting brackets could be fitted to.

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Great, that's all good then! Markyb yes I was in the 2cv club, but apart from the UK national meetings I didn't get further afield.

I've been looking at a site that holds an annual Scarborough to Morecambe run in September (I think?) and I'd quite like to go on that this year if possible. I must say that I'm lucky in having a wife who is as enamoured of classic vehicles as I am. When I told her I was thinking of buying a Minor to replace the modern Honda she admitted to being 'quite excited' about the prospect!
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Welcome on board

I'm similar to you ! but couldn't wait bought myself one - love it and sure you'll get all the advice you need en-route

just hurry up and get that garage built - your wasting good times :P

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Welcome to the wonderful (sometimes mad!) world that is Minor ownership. Happy hunting and good luck with your future purchase. I've abandoned moderns for everyday Morris usage too.
Best wishes,
Mike.
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First of all - Welcome :D

Secondly
Joe-54 wrote: I Found answers to most of the questions I had by using the search, the only question left concerns tall drivers. As I understand it the drivers seat is not adjustable? I'm 6ft and 16 stone - will I fit?
The standard drivers seat is adjustable, and there are 2 sets of holes in the floor to mount both front seats (to allow extra leg room). I'm 6ft5 and 19 (ish) stone (muscle, not fat I assure you :lol: ) and I have never had a problem with the driving position in a minor. If you do have a problem there is nothing stopping you fitting more modern, more adjustable seating!

I'm occasionally in your part of the world - the company head office is just off J28 of the M6 (But I work all over the place!)
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jagnut66 wrote:Happy hunting and good luck with your future purchase. I've abandoned moderns for everyday Morris usage too. Best wishes, Mike.
Thanks Mike.
Matt wrote: The standard drivers seat is adjustable, and there are 2 sets of holes in the floor to mount both front seats (to allow extra leg room). I'm 6ft5 and 19 (ish) stone (muscle, not fat I assure you :lol: ) and I have never had a problem with the driving position in a minor. If you do have a problem there is nothing stopping you fitting more modern, more adjustable seating!

I'm occasionally in your part of the world - the company head office is just off J28 of the M6 (But I work all over the place!)
Hi Matt.

Thanks for that. I got the notion that the drivers seat wasn't adjustable from reading a 'Popular classics' type magazine report containing clearly inaccurate facts/poor journalism. I've just this morning received a few Minor related books I bought on ebay, one of which is a 1960's handbook that clearly states the seats are adjustable. Sort of reminds me why I don't buy classic car mag's anymore! :roll:

Yes J28 M6 is the nearest to me, or the Botany bay J8 M60 coming the other way. I don't know why but I see Minors passing through my village quite regularly, which has perhaps influenced me to go native like Mike above. :lol:
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