Traveller Waist Rail/End Post & Lower Door Rail

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Traveller Waist Rail/End Post & Lower Door Rail

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Hi,
I'm recommissioning a '71 Traveller for a friend of a friend - long story! - and most of the mechanical work's done.

The lower window runners on both sides are toast and a previous owner had filled the obviously rotten joint between the RH end post and waist rail.

Took the side windows out today and had a delve:
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The owner's on a tight budget, but these two sections look pretty terminal to me - is it possible to replace them without disturbing the rest of the wood?

The RH lower door rail is also gone - again, can this be replaced on it's own?

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Thanks,
Stan
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Re: Traveller Waist Rail/End Post & Lower Door Rail

Post by taupe »

Hi

The best option would be a replacement side frame but if on a tight budget then chisel out the rot, treat the ends with wood hardener and scarf in some new ash timber.

Taupe
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Re: Traveller Waist Rail/End Post & Lower Door Rail

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taupe wrote:Hi

The best option would be a replacement side frame but if on a tight budget then chisel out the rot, treat the ends with wood hardener and scarf in some new ash timber.

Taupe
I agree with Taupe.

Two other options- phone Travellers Timbers and ask if they have any cheaper "seconds" for the rotten pieces, or ask around at the club for good second hand timber.
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Re: Traveller Waist Rail/End Post & Lower Door Rail

Post by IaininTenbury »

It would be possible, albeit a bit of a fiddle to fit a new post and waist rail, (I did it on a late traveller I had a few years back) but you may find problems with the other joins when you get those two pieces out so asa budget repair making up and splicing in new bits may be more effective.
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Re: Traveller Waist Rail/End Post & Lower Door Rail

Post by Pilkie »

Hi Stan.

Have you spotted these on Ebay?
Maybe worth it for the sections you need and a bit more!
And he has 2 sides!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321194561331? ... 1438.l2649
Sods law they turn up just after I have won on ebay,"and still in recovery" 2 x new,but stored for years complete wood side frames for mine! :roll:
Still,I saved a good few quid on new,new!! :)

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Re: Traveller Waist Rail/End Post & Lower Door Rail

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Thanks Dave!

Definitely worth watching so on my list.

Rhyl though? :roll:
I'm off to Manchester later next month though, so not a million miles away.

Cheers,

Stan
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Re: Traveller Waist Rail/End Post & Lower Door Rail

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Could be well worth a 140m side trip to the seaside!! :)
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Re: Traveller Waist Rail/End Post & Lower Door Rail

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Grrr im bidding on it (well the other side) for mine...
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Re: Traveller Waist Rail/End Post & Lower Door Rail

Post by duddlebug »

I replaced a few wood sections on my traveller (waist rail, front pillar and can't rail) and although it was a fiddle, it's all possible. There was a great article in 'Minor Matters' last year that showed details of all the joints, which was very helpful and arrived a few days before I planed the major work. The book on travellers (Complete Companion) with Steve Foreman's coverage of wood replacement is full of incredibly useful information. I think the wast rail and corner post should be straightforward, not sure about the door piece..?

A whoe side would probably be easier, but I didn't have the money or time when I did mine.

Here's my thread:

http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=42771g
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Re: Traveller Waist Rail/End Post & Lower Door Rail

Post by duddlebug »

Even with saying it's more than possible to splice sections in, if I'd had a bit more cash, I would've done the whole side! :)

Time wise, I was worried as much about what removing the wood would reveal (especially welding) as the wood problems. And I was on a very tight budget. But I also bought new window runners and guttering, which you might need too with those sections. I found the guttering really, reeeeaaally tricky!
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