Rollover jig/frame - How much space needed to roll a car?

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Rollover jig/frame - How much space needed to roll a car?

Post by super trimbo »

Hi All

Just a bought a hub mounted rollover frame, and I'm about to embark on having a garage put up.

The mrs wants this to be as small as possible, so my question is, does anyone know if you can roll a moggy over in a garage that is 8 feet wide by 6.5 feet high (depth not an issue at 16 feet.) or would it need to be considerably more than this?

Cheers

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Don't listen to her!
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A minimum sized garage will be maximum misery.

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Post by bmcecosse »

6.5 ft high seems very low....... and 8ft wide is pathetic - you will barely be able to open the doors. I'd be surprised if the Planners would accept something as small as that anyway... Build the largest garage you can put on the site........
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Post by irmscher »

You might be interested in this site www.planningportal.gov.uk i would think you would need at least 10 feet wide
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Well if you reckon on the vehicle being 5' 6'' wide and the jig when bolted on adding another 2' 6'' at least, ( you have it to measure) making 8', your garage width----you then have no room to effect the turn! To find out the width needed, fit jig and allow for someone turning car, then take measurements.
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Post by Trickydicky »

Too much is never enough!!!!

I have a 16ft*8ft and its not wide enough, (ps, the pic below is not my garage) even just doing simple jobs like taking the wheels off when it is on stands is a squeeze. Its a pain moving the car close to one side just to do things like this.
From experience I would say you need at least 10ft wide, and a standard concrete garage will not be high enough to use a roll over jig.
Why not attach the jig to the car and roll it over outside a garage and take some simple measurements just to get an idea?

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bmcecosse wrote:6.5 ft high seems very low....... and 8ft wide is pathetic - you will barely be able to open the doors. I'd be surprised if the Planners would accept something as small as that anyway... Build the largest garage you can put on the site........
? Many single garages nowadays on new houses are only about 8ft wide if that! A lot of people dont have a choice. In fact, garages on new builds are getting smaller and smaller, I dont really know what your're supposed to do in them!

I agree though that 6.5 ft is way too small. I stand 6.4 ft, and with shoes/boots, higher than 6.5 ft. Say if you get a tall person visiting? :D
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Post by les »

Maybe they could stand outside and just look in? In fact that way they can't poke around seeing what you've got! Best build the garage to suit your own requirements rather than worry about visitors. :D
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Post by kingzdjc »

Please note though, that if you do build a structure so short in height, then it may work against you if you decide to sell up one day... Just a thought.
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Post by grey111 »

If this is of any use for reference. My 4 dr saloon on a 360 spit jig under a 3m x 3m gazebo with about a foot either side.[frame]Image[/frame]
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grey111 wrote:If this is of any use for reference. My 4 dr saloon on a 360 spit jig under a 3m x 3m gazebo with about a foot either side.[frame]Image[/frame]
hi grey! i wanted to ask a question. i measured my cars width (1950 mm lowlight), approx. -

1.32m
132cm
52"

then my garage, approx. -

207cm
81.5"
2.07m

so the clearance would be, approx. -

0.75m
75cm
29.52"
2.46f

my question is does the spit/jig allow this kind of height? which are you using? thanks!
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Post by chrisryder »

I've always been under the (possibly wrong) impression that a Minor was 5ft 1 wide and 5ft high (on the ground). I'm sure that's what I read in a manual once.

If you were to literally tip it on its side, pivoting at the edge of the tyres, the minimum width required would be 10ft 1. And that's starting off touching one wall and finishing off touching the other!

Heightwise, call it 5 wide and 5 tall for easy maths, a^2 = b^2 + c^2. 5^2 + 5^2 = 50. Root of 50 is 7.07.

So in that instance, you'd need just over 7ft of roof to roll it.

The bolt-onto-hub rollers bring the pivot point inboard, effectively rotating (roughly) 1ft in from the side and 1ft up from the ground. So the height and width required will be less than 10ft 1 and 7ft 1.

So that's a back-of-a-fag-packet bare minimum for you...
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Post by dystopia »

thank you very much for explaining that and doing the maths very nice :)

i might be able to either get a spit/jig/rollover with wheels, to roll it out the garage to flip it then be able to push it back in maybe once its dropped as ideally it need it to just sit on its side which then i can have a look at the underbody mainly. but i might leave this until last now and just pay to have the underbody sealed as this seems like a huge issue. :evil:
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