Wing Mirrors
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Re: Wing Mirrors
Bull Motif sell mirrors which fit to the quarterlight frame - see this thread for photos:
http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f= ... ht+mirrors
ESM also sell them:
http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/adv ... or&x=2&y=9
http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f= ... ht+mirrors
ESM also sell them:
http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/adv ... or&x=2&y=9
Eric - 1971 Traveller
Re: Wing Mirrors
Another minor owner in Cardiff, also called Matt! 
Where abouts in Cardiff are you, when are we meeting up?


Where abouts in Cardiff are you, when are we meeting up?


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Re: Wing Mirrors
Hi Matt. I have the quater lite mirrors fitted to my Panda. I also have small round blind spot ones fitted to them as it's a godsend when reversing.
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Any goods or dual purpose vehicle,which a traveller/estate car is,is required by law to have either one internal and one on the offside,or one on the offide and nearside
Re: Wing Mirrors
The MoT Testers Manual says in Section 8.1 (View to Rear)
This inspection only applies to obligatory rear view mirrors or indirect vision devices.
Indirect vision devices (cameras) may replace mirrors on some vehicles, with the view through to
the rear displayed on a screen in the driver’s cabin. Where such devices are fitted, the MoIs and RfRs
apply to both the cameras and the screen.
There are three acceptable rear view mirror/device positions:
a. an exterior mirror or device that provides a view along the offside of the vehicle
b. an exterior mirror or device that provides a view along the nearside of the vehicle
c. an interior mirror or a device which provides a view to the rear of the vehicle.
And defines "obligatory rear view mirror" as
Passenger vehicles with less than 8 passenger seats - First used before 1 August 1978 - At least one mirror/device in any of the above positions.
Goods vehicles - Any age - Two mirrors/devices, one of which must be in position ‘a’.
Together with other definitions not relevant to vehicles of our period or type. Note that it doesn't mention "dual-purpose vehicles"
I'd suggest that pickups and vans are "goods vehicles", and thus need an offside mirror plus either an inside or a nearside mirror, and that saloons, travellers, and convertibles are "passenger vehicles" and thus only need one mirror, which could be in any of the three positions.
I find round convex wing mirrors, plus a standard interior mirror, fine on a couple of 50s classics, and easier to use than the common door-mounted mirrors on my 68 Midget.
Kevin
This inspection only applies to obligatory rear view mirrors or indirect vision devices.
Indirect vision devices (cameras) may replace mirrors on some vehicles, with the view through to
the rear displayed on a screen in the driver’s cabin. Where such devices are fitted, the MoIs and RfRs
apply to both the cameras and the screen.
There are three acceptable rear view mirror/device positions:
a. an exterior mirror or device that provides a view along the offside of the vehicle
b. an exterior mirror or device that provides a view along the nearside of the vehicle
c. an interior mirror or a device which provides a view to the rear of the vehicle.
And defines "obligatory rear view mirror" as
Passenger vehicles with less than 8 passenger seats - First used before 1 August 1978 - At least one mirror/device in any of the above positions.
Goods vehicles - Any age - Two mirrors/devices, one of which must be in position ‘a’.
Together with other definitions not relevant to vehicles of our period or type. Note that it doesn't mention "dual-purpose vehicles"
I'd suggest that pickups and vans are "goods vehicles", and thus need an offside mirror plus either an inside or a nearside mirror, and that saloons, travellers, and convertibles are "passenger vehicles" and thus only need one mirror, which could be in any of the three positions.
I find round convex wing mirrors, plus a standard interior mirror, fine on a couple of 50s classics, and easier to use than the common door-mounted mirrors on my 68 Midget.
Kevin
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400240064792? ... 1423.l2649
the above mirrors are easy to fit near the quarter light,
take off the triangle shaped bit in front of the quarter light,
place a piece of wood in it
then drill a hole the size of threaded end but only through one side
attach mirror, then fit back to door. if bought as a pair
the nearside wing mirror fits drivers door drivers wing mirror fits nearside.
i have done the same on my van but with different mirrors
the above mirrors are easy to fit near the quarter light,
take off the triangle shaped bit in front of the quarter light,
place a piece of wood in it
then drill a hole the size of threaded end but only through one side
attach mirror, then fit back to door. if bought as a pair
the nearside wing mirror fits drivers door drivers wing mirror fits nearside.
i have done the same on my van but with different mirrors
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I have an lcv and know the rearview is a problem, I'm looking into the pros and cons of fitting a rearview camera, which on the face of it would eliminate some of the difficulty. It would seem a good addition to mirrors. Has anyone had the same thoughts?
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Re: Wing Mirrors
Got round to fitting a pair today Matt, if it ever stops raining I will post a photo.MattJR wrote:Hello all,
I am new to the site and to Morris Minor ownership! As of about 3 days ago I am the proud owner of a 1969 almond-green 2-door saloon. Hardly been used by its one previous owner, garaged its whole life when not used and in lovely condition. I am loving driving it - just one thing I am really missing is wing mirrors. It has quarterlight mirrors on the bonnet but I can't see much with those. I have seen pictures of the cars with wing mirrors fitted (round-shaped ones) - they seem to e fitted to the window itself.
Any idea whether these are easy to obtain and fit ??
Many thanks,
Matthew
Have you sorted any yet?
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I bought the one recommended by Louise but I haven't fitted it yet - will let you know how I get on.
Cheers,
Cheers,
This is Myrtle.
Re: Wing Mirrors
I haven't used quarter light mirrors myself so it wasn't a recommendation, I was just providing some suggestions for where you could get some from.
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Take it from me Louise, as long as you have the gear required, hacksaw, vice, posidrive,13mm spanner, drill and drillbit, they are easy to fit and a solid job.LouiseM wrote:I haven't used quarter light mirrors myself so it wasn't a recommendation, I was just providing some suggestions for where you could get some from.
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Thanks, Louise, understoodLouiseM wrote:I haven't used quarter light mirrors myself so it wasn't a recommendation, I was just providing some suggestions for where you could get some from.

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Re: Wing Mirrors
Just fitted these mirrors to Jethro.samuria wrote:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400240064792? ... 1423.l2649
the above mirrors are easy to fit near the quarter light,
take off the triangle shaped bit in front of the quarter light,
place a piece of wood in it
then drill a hole the size of threaded end but only through one side
attach mirror, then fit back to door. if bought as a pair
the nearside wing mirror fits drivers door drivers wing mirror fits nearside.
i have done the same on my van but with different mirrors
Like Samuria says they fit nicely onto the front triangular cover plate of the quarterlight frame but you need a thin 13mm spanner and a bit of dexterity to tighten the nuts as you need to have the bolt almost all the way out of the plate to wriggle it past the frame and then hold the cover plate open while tightening the nut.
Alternatively you could pop another hole through the opposite side of the plate which would allow you to get a socket in to tighten up the unit and then cover the inner hole with a rubber plug. The choice is yours but the end result looks rather smart

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P.S. Don't forget to use a step drill for the holes, it cuts a clean neat hole and avoids a ragged edge which sometimes happens with a standard drill bit. 

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Mine are identical to yours, I had to cut the bolts a little shorter to fit.
I drilled a pilot hole of small dia first and utilised some masking tape to avoid breaking of the paint, as my steel plates are painted not chrome, very nice job though they do look tidy.
I drilled a pilot hole of small dia first and utilised some masking tape to avoid breaking of the paint, as my steel plates are painted not chrome, very nice job though they do look tidy.
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Re: Wing Mirrors
B'lander, any tips on how to line up the mirror on passenger side door?
I have a similar mirror but very difficult to get aligned correctly
I have a similar mirror but very difficult to get aligned correctly

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Hi, Yes I had a bit of a struggle to get a decent view from the nearside mirror as they do not stick out very far from the doors.millerman wrote:B'lander, any tips on how to line up the mirror on passenger side door?
I have a similar mirror but very difficult to get aligned correctly
I just had to keep moving the mirror back and forth on its stalk to obtain the best result.
Once you get the maximum viewing area (which is about 70% compared with the driver's side) the mirror is fixed in position with the three locking screws. Not perfect but does the job.

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Re: Wing Mirrors
hi I've presently got the same mirrors fitted but the nearside one is difficult to use,so today I got a very similar looking pair at trentham but with longer arms ,so i'm hoping this will help
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The fitted ones are starting to pit on the mirror surface after just 15 months

The fitted ones are starting to pit on the mirror surface after just 15 months

Cheers Alex
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