Engine and gearbox rebuilders?

[convertibled]

I want to rebuild my 1964 1098 engine and gearbox and can't decide wether to do it myself or do and exchange from one of the Morris suppliers. I know if I do it myself it will be right but when I start to add up the cost of the parts I could get a rebuild for not a lot more. Has anybody had experience of or could recommend a Company to use who will do a "proper" job to give me and "as new" unit and not just a cosmetic tart up??

[bmcecosse]

Welcome to the forum...... Depends where you are - you need to tell us! Fill in your profile details. A service exchange crank from Bull Motif is still a good buy (was a screaming bargain until recently!) , and pistons are readily available - so just look up your local yellow pages for a someone to rebore the block for you. Then just add a new oil pump + timing chain and gears + cam followers + gaskets and job done. Gearbox overhaul is a bit more difficult - and not all parts are readily available to do the job properly. Laygear doesn't seem to be available now, and very very often the 1st gear teeth on that are ruined..... - it really depends how bad the box is when you open it up. Has it been acting up in service ?

[M25VAN]

ESM are cheaper on the crankshaft and you get a set of thrust washers.

[convertibled]

Thanks Guys
What I realy want to know is that if I buy a "fully reconditioned" from Bull Motif or similar will the quality be as good as I could get by using my local workshop to do the rebore etc then buy the parts and assemble myself?

Carl

[les]

Carl, If you know how to do it properly then you will be sure of the rebuild quality but a bought recon engine etc should be fine, although there has to be an element of trust, on your part, as to what has been renewed.

[MarkyB]

Being of a slightly sneaky disposition, I'd find out who they use and get them to do it.
Thus cutting out the middle mans premium.
Even better do it yourself, it's not hard, and much more rewarding.

Avoid the cheapest available ones, you might not get more than a coat of paint on a piece of junk!

[Blades]

Carl

Try getting in touch with Tom Roy in Great Ayton, they should be able to advise you

Tel: 01642 723400

Nick

[bmcecosse]

DIY it - great satisfaction when it works. ESM don't seem to offer an exchange 1098 crankshaft..... Interestingly though - they do offer an exchange 'block' (so I guess rebored) and an exchange block assembly ( I guess rebore/pistons/crank regrind)- which may be a good/economic way to go.

[M25VAN]

Exchange crank listed here http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/pro ... 45f148bee2
Where did you see the exchange blocks? I can only see a recon block with some pistons but no crank.

[bmcecosse]

Ahh right -I couldn't find that.......dunno why not! Yes - block with pistons - if your crank is ok (unlikely I suspect) could be a way forward.

[M25VAN]

It's not clear what that exchange block includes. If it is just a rebored block and pistons then it doesn't seem such a good deal. I will enquire as to what it includes.

[mike.perry]

You should get a warranty with an exchange engine, if you DIY you get no warranty if it is wrong

[M25VAN]

Yes, it's a bit of a catch 22 situation. Go cheaper and DIY and hope you get it all done correct or pay out the money but have the reassurance of a warranty. I must say that for the money though a years warranty (18months from Bull Motif) doesn't seem much. Think of other more complex and expensive items that you buy today and it's not difficult to get 2,3 or even 5 years warranty.

[MarkyB]

other more complex and expensive items that you buy today

These are things that have been made from scratch, brand new, not using 50 year old components with unknown history.