Wiper motor interest

[tesb]

I have been asked to help my mother in law raise some cash for much needed services. In her loft I found an original wiper motor still boxed and un-used. When I asked about the motor she told us they had a Morris Minor in the 60's and had this as a spare that was never fitted.
Can any one tell me if this is a desirable or useful part? I have had a dealer interested in it but I have a feeling he is after getting it at a knock down price but I feel for my mother in laws sake I should try and get an honest price for the item.

Any help or pointers appreciated.

[DAVIDMCCULLOUGH]

Hi,
a reconditioned one from a minor specailist costs £69.50 plus vat and carriage and a surcharge on your old unit. I would suggest putting it on ebay as some new old stock items seem to make good money.

[autolycus]

Ebay indeed, and to get the best price and least chance of comeback, quote as many numbers as possible from the box and from the motor itself, even if their significance isn't immediately apparent. If the motor is in top cosmetic order - no bubbling paint or tarnished plating - make sure you have a really good photo, preferably taken with a camera not a telephone, kettle, or microwave oven, to distinguish it from most items on ebay.

Kevin

[brucek]

Also worth checking which motor it is - clap hands or parallel wipe

[tesb]

Thanks for all the advice, done as you said and it's on eBay now.

Not sure how to check if it's clap hands or parallel, is it possible to tell by looking at it?

Also I'm keen to check it works 100% even though it is new. I see 2 screw clamp terminals on the side (in pic), should a 12v supply start the motor? Bit concerned as no polarity markers that I can see on screw clamps, will it matter?



Again thanks for all the help, Mother in law should be pleased.

[aupickup]

well its not for a late morris minor

[brucek]

No - I'm wondering if it was for the 1930's Morris Minor? Anyone have any thoughts?

[tesb]

well I feel a little out of my depth here, it has gone to over £100 on eBay already but not sure why. I have also had multiple offers to buy it from what look like dealers so I have a feeling we have something worthwhile to sell but not sure what it is exactly.

It is a strange feeling to be able to get a good price for my mother in law but I am so intrigued by what it is that is so interesting. As much as I'd like to help my mother in law, I'd as much like to know what exactly the item is.

What do you think the chances are of anyone telling me what it is for?

[mike.perry]

Not Morris Minor. Used on postwar sports cars such as MG TC, and early Land Rovers. Probably on many other cars.

[tesb]

This gets more intriguing as the story goes on. I have had a message that it is not from a Minor as my mother in law presumed but more likely a 1920's vintage Bentley - but then this would not be the first internet prank.

I have no idea now what to do now or how the story will end - but we are still hoping the mother in law should be smiling at the end - all being well.

Sorry if I have mislead you but as you can appreciate we hope the guy telling us it is from a Bentley is being honest.

The tale continues.....

[mike.perry]

In the earlier days of motoring Lucas made the component, such as the headlight, tail light, horn, wiper motor etc and car manufactorers fitted that component, so the same component could be fitted to many cars.
There is a Lucas website which will cross reference any part numbers and give you the fitment

[simmitc]

I certainly had one like that on a series II Land Rover. The shaft passes through the body and the arm then fixes to the end of the shaft. The chrome handle allows you to move the shaft and thus the arm. This allows you to wipe by hand when no power available, or to move the blade to the parked position after switching off - it does not self-park. Straightforward +ve to one of the screws and -ve to the other. I've also seen them on other cars and even boats. I have no idea what they are worth or where else they were used.

[bmcecosse]

Just let the ebay auction run - without making any comment on what it will/not fit....... It may even be for 6 volts - does it have any voltage marking on it? Here's the listing http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Windsceen-wip ... 460201bd45 and there is a very similar looking 'MG' motor listed elsewhere for slightly more money.......

[LouiseM]

Here's the ebay link: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Windsceen-wip ... 460201bd45

It's a Lucas 12v CW1 75168A motor.

According to this Lucas catalogue it was fitted to a 1954/55 Austin 1 & 1.5 ton cargo truck and a 1952/54 4.5 litre Bentley: http://campkahler.com/files/Lucas-400e-to-A50-ocr.pdf

[bmcecosse]

Well done Louise - I found and added my ebay link as an edit while you were posting it up - sorry!

[brucek]

Well - according to a little research on t'internet at this address
http://campkahler.com/files/Lucas-400e-to-R47-ocr.pdf

It fits a 1954 - 55 Austin 4x4 Cargo truck (civilian) whatever one of those was!!!

I'm sure it must fit something a bit more glamourous though! there does appear to be a lot of applications for the CW range so I'm sure it will be of use to the 50's sportscar/landrover crowd

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[tesb]

Wow - thanks for all the help, I appreciate your time and effort.

I think I may have listed the motor all wrong now, I don't want someone to buy it and it not fit, but also don't want to under sell it. Not sure if it will make much difference now stopping auction and re-listing, there appears so much interest I feel sure the bidders know full well what it is.

[brucek]

To be honest I think I would just leave things as they are. The catalogue where I found the information is/was quite detailed but the model does appear to have many uses. In some cases, a different part number for the same outwardly similar part may only indicate a small change in what the motor does - e.g the arc of the wipe for instance which, in these times, would be adjusted by a technically minded person to suit their vehicle. It is a fairly simple motor for those who know about susch things so I'm sure it will be made to fit whatever vehicle the winning bidder has

It's a brand new part, you have already said you are not sure of its use so let the auction run its course. If whoever buys it cannot use it on their vehicle, they'll move it on again.

[bmcecosse]

It should go to ~ £120. There is a similar unit listed elsewhere at that amount fixed price.

[autolycus]

The excellent photos and description should ensure it reaches a good price.

As for its date and application: I'm sure that 3 63 is indeed the manufacturing date, but it may well have been bought for an earlier model of car. Probably not a vintage Bentley, as I don't think Lucas were making this model at the time - cars of the 20s often had curious devices like the Trico-Folberth vacuum operated motor. All standard steel bodied early post-war Bentleys used the later style motor (DR1, DR3) with rack drive to wiper boxes. Some Derby Bentleys (1933-39) may have used this type of motor, as may the odd Mk VI special.

MG TA, TB, TC used CW1 motors having a 150 degree sweep, like this one. There was a long discussion on a the TABC mailing list on this topic, and it seems that the biggest difference between some of the variants of the CW1 was in matters like mounting stud and spindle length. When I rebuilt my TC in the late 60s I used a wiper motor from a scrapped Morrison milk float - so there's another vehicle that used them

Best of luck with the sale.

Kevin