My car certainly seems to run better, and even slightly more economically on shellSam_1688 wrote:My local tesco has a set amount button, select the amount you want, then paying by card or at cashier then start filling but I don't know if its just me but tesco petrol seams to last less than other fuels,
Maybe just me
Conspiracy and cynicism
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Alex'n'Ane
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Re: Conspiracy and cynicism
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lambrettalad
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Re: Conspiracy and cynicism
I've always used shell ever since I used to travel Birmingham to Manchester every day in a 2.3 Rover SD1 AUTO,I used to get about 3 to 5 % better MPG and great performance. ,Still do . Just wish I had a Ferrai to really test it out !!!!!!
Cheers Alex
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rayofleamington
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Re: Conspiracy and cynicism
The quality of fuel can make a difference to MPG, however the price of fuel is often not related...
modern engines will adjust various parameters to run as efficiently as possible to deliver the demanded torque. If the fuel is poor, they can consume more to produce the same speed/torque.
however as for mpg and comparing fuel stations - one real, but useless, anecdote from me:
6 years ago in a Nissan - filling up at Sainsbury's I got 20 to 25 miles less range on a full tank than filling up at Asda.
However when using the same petrol station a few times in a row I got the same mpg at both.
MPG was calculated by miles driven versus litres required to re-brim the tank.
Why? At Sainsburys I could get 2 or 3 litres less into the tank than at Asda. This was because the Sainsbury's forecourt had a significant sideways slope and this caused an airlock at the very top of the tank.
This was pretty annoying as I calculate MPG on every refuel stop and the inconsistency was making it impossible to know what the mpg really was. Monitoring regularly can let you know of an engine problem developing... although mainly it's just a habit.
The answer? I got a diesel instead. Then a more efficient diesel estate... Then another for the wife.
I'm currently driving a £320 ebay boat anker 106(D) that's giving consistent 50 to 52mpg per tank.
At some point I'll fix the wife's car and should sell the 106... although the engine might make a good donor for a Minor.
The 106 engine is old enough to be low tech, it's fairly low miles, the car is worth little. The only bit that would take some thought would be to re-hash the engine mountings.
modern engines will adjust various parameters to run as efficiently as possible to deliver the demanded torque. If the fuel is poor, they can consume more to produce the same speed/torque.
however as for mpg and comparing fuel stations - one real, but useless, anecdote from me:
6 years ago in a Nissan - filling up at Sainsbury's I got 20 to 25 miles less range on a full tank than filling up at Asda.
However when using the same petrol station a few times in a row I got the same mpg at both.
MPG was calculated by miles driven versus litres required to re-brim the tank.
Why? At Sainsburys I could get 2 or 3 litres less into the tank than at Asda. This was because the Sainsbury's forecourt had a significant sideways slope and this caused an airlock at the very top of the tank.
This was pretty annoying as I calculate MPG on every refuel stop and the inconsistency was making it impossible to know what the mpg really was. Monitoring regularly can let you know of an engine problem developing... although mainly it's just a habit.
The answer? I got a diesel instead. Then a more efficient diesel estate... Then another for the wife.
I'm currently driving a £320 ebay boat anker 106(D) that's giving consistent 50 to 52mpg per tank.
At some point I'll fix the wife's car and should sell the 106... although the engine might make a good donor for a Minor.
The 106 engine is old enough to be low tech, it's fairly low miles, the car is worth little. The only bit that would take some thought would be to re-hash the engine mountings.
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Jan 06: The Minor SII Africa adventure: http://www.minor-detour.com
Oct 06: back from Dresden with my Trabant 601 Kombi
Jan 07: back from a month thru North Africa (via Timbuktu) in a S3 Landy
June 07 - back from Zwickau Trabi Treffen
Aug 07 & Aug 08 - back from the Lands End to Orkney in 71 pickup
Sept 2010 - finally gave up breaking down in a SII Landy...
where to break down next?
2013... managed to seize my 1275 just by driving it round the block
Re: Conspiracy and cynicism
Well done getting a diesel 106 for that sort of money... They go for much more up here! And yes - I think that engine in a tax free Minor would be a good combination, although getting the gearing high enough may require both a 5 speed box and a 3.7 final drive.



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rayofleamington
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Re: Conspiracy and cynicism
Just what I was thinking... and by pure chance that's what's already installed in my 54 4dr... hmm.although getting the gearing high enough may require both a 5 speed box and a 3.7 final drive
The gearing is awful for the current 1275 and I've wanted to change it, but maybe change the engine instead
Ray. MMOC#47368. Forum moderator.
Jan 06: The Minor SII Africa adventure: http://www.minor-detour.com
Oct 06: back from Dresden with my Trabant 601 Kombi
Jan 07: back from a month thru North Africa (via Timbuktu) in a S3 Landy
June 07 - back from Zwickau Trabi Treffen
Aug 07 & Aug 08 - back from the Lands End to Orkney in 71 pickup
Sept 2010 - finally gave up breaking down in a SII Landy...
where to break down next?
2013... managed to seize my 1275 just by driving it round the block
Jan 06: The Minor SII Africa adventure: http://www.minor-detour.com
Oct 06: back from Dresden with my Trabant 601 Kombi
Jan 07: back from a month thru North Africa (via Timbuktu) in a S3 Landy
June 07 - back from Zwickau Trabi Treffen
Aug 07 & Aug 08 - back from the Lands End to Orkney in 71 pickup
Sept 2010 - finally gave up breaking down in a SII Landy...
where to break down next?
2013... managed to seize my 1275 just by driving it round the block