water trough

Post by sb » Fri Sep 24, 2004 11:02 pm

the water trough that run, both sides, from the front wing-up and over the doors/rear side window and ends at the rear wing. Its about a inch wide and folds under towards the main body. Anyway mine are very rusty. it would seem that water collects ubove the rubber that keeps the rearside windows in place. Therefore anyone had a similar problem and what did you do about it?

Cheers, sb.

Post by **Gareth** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 12:18 pm

Oh, you mean the gutters? If they're rusty, then they have to come off and be replaced. The Lindsay Porter Buying/Resto/Maintenence manual gives information on how to do it, but it involves bending steel and welding... so I haven't looked into it. Thankfully mine are ok!

Looks like a nasty job...

Post by sb » Sun Sep 26, 2004 12:37 am

Gareth wrote:Oh, you mean the gutters? If they're rusty, then they have to come off and be replaced. The Lindsay Porter Buying/Resto/Maintenence manual gives information on how to do it, but it involves bending steel and welding... so I haven't looked into it. Thankfully mine are ok! Looks like a nasty job...

not so much that the guttering is rusty rather the part that sits below the roof and is sandwitched between the roof and the lip of gutter that folds unders. i thing its welded to the frame??

cheers anyway and thanks for info. sb

Post by **Gareth** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:27 pm

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... Er... have you got a picture?

You've lost me, but I have difficulty visualising bits on two-doors... ;)

Post by **rayofleamington** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 9:10 pm

I think I know what you mean - the 'gutter' outer section is rolled up making the lip on the 'trough'. The rest of the gutter section sits under the join (flat piece about an inch wide). This whole area has a tendency to swell with rot and once it's started it get worse and worse.
I doubt that water is being held into it by the rubber as these have a tendency to go at any point whether it is a 4 door or 2 door.
The water may be getting into the rotted area from the trough section if part of the sealer is poor or cracked.

I haven't loooked at the Lindsay Porter book for about 12 years, but even if you know how to fix it, it's a rather specialised (nasty) job and I don't see how you would avoid repainting the roof after the rotted sections were removed and new metal welded in.

Post by sb » Sun Sep 26, 2004 11:39 pm

sorry gareth no pics but ray your spot on! Specialist job can only result in big bucks.

I'm considering having a go at some point, possibly MIG welding. Ray you may be right about sealent cracking although i beleave the underside of the gutter that folds up and under is not welded enough. indeed there appears to be only a few spot welds and therefore the untacked parts simple fall away. a comparison. hold a bit of paper in both hands and move your hands together, the bowing paper, is seen several times along the underside of the gutter.

it will proberly be as confusing to do as it is to explain.

cheers, sb.

Post by **rayofleamington** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:00 am

it will proberly be as confusing to do as it is to explain.

People who've seen a rotted gutter would probably understand what you mean tho. Unless you've seen one it's pretty hard to visualise. If Pieces are falling away then it sounds like it's had the problem for a LONG time