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What a blooming waste of time!

Post by Grant Carter »

So my Morris traveller didn't sell on ebay...many questions...37 watchers....still nothing....is £3000 o.n.o to high? Someone please advise me...i need to sell him because i just can't afford him!
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Re: What a blooming waste of time!

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for 3,000 you would expect the wood to be in near mint condition, paint work to be ok with the odd scratch. i know you spend a lot on it but i would expect about 1800 for it cos i know the wood needs work on

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Well that's hardly true Ben in fact i would prefer if you just didn't comment on the matter.
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Re: What a blooming waste of time!

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ye but that would of put potential buyers off.

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Practical Classics do a price guide and condition 2 is £2750 so your would need to be in pretty good condition have an MOT and need minimal work so that it can be used right away.

Cars do sell on this site and the other site http://mog.myfreeforum.org/index.php Retro rides is also a good site for buying/selling http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi

Watch similar sales on Ebay to see what they go for and you can also set a lowish start price with a reserve as this might attract more interest.

Also asking for advice then asking the people giving advice not to comment isn't the best way of making yourself approachable. Photos would help with any opinions on a sale price.
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For £3k I would be expecting pretty much an immaculate Traveller. I value my own at quite a bit less than that - it's 'presentable' but not by any means immaculate. And yes - if you don't want honest comments - best ask the other lad to delete his posts......
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Re: What a blooming waste of time!

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Jefftav wrote:Practical Classics do a price guide and condition 2 is £2750 so your would need to be in pretty good condition have an MOT and need minimal work so that it can be used right away.

Cars do sell on this site and the other site http://mog.myfreeforum.org/index.php Retro rides is also a good site for buying/selling http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi

Watch similar sales on Ebay to see what they go for and you can also set a lowish start price with a reserve as this might attract more interest.

Also asking for advice then asking the people giving advice not to comment isn't the best way of making yourself approachable. Photos would help with any opinions on a sale price.

Thank you for that.....the reason i said what i did to Ben is we on the young members site know what he's like.
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Post by ben_minor_63 »

Grant my point that i said is valid tho.

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Re: What a blooming waste of time!

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It might be a good idea to give any prospective buyer an idea of what woodwork needs replacing, currently one could assume anything from a piece to a whole side.

It might be prudent give her a really good polish and take some more pictures, it might just be me but I find the van in the background really distracting, it would be far better to have a plain background.

this a good example of what is available for about 3k: http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C248799

Anyway best of luck. :D
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Looking at the photos you posted on here the wood on the nearside does look like it needs a bit of work: http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=40612

Buyers who are looking to spend £3,000 will most probably want something that looks nice and doesn't need anything doing to it so advertising it for a bit less, maybe £2,600 / £2,700 will possibly attract more interest. MMOC members can advertise for free in classic car weekly (see details in the small ad section of Minor Matters) or as has already been suggested, put it on ebay with a lower start price - £1,000 or so - and set a reasonable reserve.

And as youngcamper has already suggested, take some more photos as the ones you have posted don't show the sides very well and it looks as though it's parked in a car lot. Drive it somewhere nice and take plenty of good shots :D


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Re: What a blooming waste of time!

Post by Alex'n'Ane »

Grant, I have to agree with ben on this one, when you originally asked on the young members page myself and a couple of others gave our honest oppinion on the price, with a few examples to back this up. When selling you will 'always' want the best price, so there's nothing wrong with testing the water at a higher price, but as said above, and way back on the fb group, I'd estimate at a price of around 2000 but maybe expect a couple hundred to be knocked off that.
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Seems there has already been a lot of conversation about this traveller which the rest of us haven't been privy to but my estimate of £2600 / £2,700 is 'top end' based on the limited photos on here and the fact that it has a long MOT and is apparently solid underneath. A photo of the 'scrape' on the wing would be useful to potential buyers. Also you say "the engine may need tuning, I'm not sure" so that might be putting buyers off. What makes you think that it may need tuning? Is it running badly? Just trying to be helpful, as how you advertise a car is really important if you want to attract interest. If others who have given you a guide price have actually seen the car I'd take their advice though as it's likely to be more accurate than people guessing by looking at photos!


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Re: What a blooming waste of time!

Post by bmcecosse »

The Trav highlighted a few posts earlier in Cars and Classics is a very smart looking early car - asking £2750 - probably accept £2500. So yes - your car is likely more in the same range as my own £1600/£1800.
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Re: What a blooming waste of time!

Post by les »

I would have thought it a good idea to sort out the engine tune before selling, the reported wording would suggest it's no big deal. The less faults needing mention can only help if looking for a good price!
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Re: What a blooming waste of time!

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Having looked at the photos in the thread mentioned above, I'll play the part of a buyer: Rear left hand bumper blade bent in, so it's been knocked. Rear nearside wing rusty & needs replacement, probably means poor wood as well. Wood generally showing stains and lack of varnish. Engine bay does not match external paint, so it's had a partial respray - why only partial? Even then, it looks like some T-cut and a good polish would be in order. Rear draught excluder hanging out of the bottom of the right hand door. Then the description - split headlining, poor seats, etc.

If someone was going to have to repair any wood, they might just as well do the whole lot - materials £1,200 plus a lot of labour As a buyer, I'd be looking to pay £1,200 - £1,800, so faced with an asking price of £3,000, I'd carry on looking.

On the plus side, it still looks like a fair car, and if I was selling, I would make more of an effort and ask £2,000. If I was driving it, I'd be happy to use it for a good many years to come.

All opinions offered solely from photos, and with the aim of being helpful so that you think about how other people are seeing it. There have been some good suggestions above, so good luck with it.
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Re: What a blooming waste of time!

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It was only a blooming waste of time because you wanted to dictate the price, if you had run the auction from a low starting price you would find out exactly how much it is worth.

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Re: What a blooming waste of time!

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Perhaps would-be buyers were put off by the various problems revealed in the owner's previous postings about this car: the severity of the woodwork decay; the brake backplate alignment; the lack of power; the bodged exhaust, and so on. I'd rather buy a car from someone who has thrown money at it than an impoverished student trying to everything on the cheap while still learning the difference between types of nipple, and perhaps the ebay non-bidders, and indeed messageboard readers, felt the same.

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Cheers for that simmitc. I'm thankful for that.
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Re: What a blooming waste of time!

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bmcecosse wrote:The Trav highlighted a few posts earlier in Cars and Classics is a very smart looking early car - asking £2750 - probably accept £2500.

Well Roy - You were correct on both points :D



Grant - I'm sorry you're struggling with the sale but a mighty thanks for the original posting otherwise I might have missed out on my dream car :wink:

Young Camper - A huge thanks for the actual link - I had been after a decent Series 3 Traveller for some time.

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Re: What a blooming waste of time!

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autolycus wrote:Perhaps would-be buyers were put off by the various problems revealed in the owner's previous postings about this car: the severity of the woodwork decay; the brake backplate alignment; the lack of power; the bodged exhaust, and so on. I'd rather buy a car from someone who has thrown money at it than an impoverished student trying to everything on the cheap while still learning the difference between types of nipple, and perhaps the ebay non-bidders, and indeed messageboard readers, felt the same.

Kevin

Well 'Kevin' your comments were a thrill to read and I will, for sure, be taking your incredibly useful comments on board. As for the 'impoverished student' comment it really did make me chuckle, har har har!

But no on a serious note thank you for taking your time to post the comment....it really was an utter pleasure.

And maybe one day I too can become as great and knowledgeable about the nipples on a Morris 1000.
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