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- Minor Legend
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MPG
Why do we still quote Miles per gallon.
Now all fuel is in litres I find myself doing mental arithmetic in the mornings. I know the continental version is litres/100Km
That's to complex
how about MPL we could all aim for the magic 10 = 45.4 MPG
It would make my early morning maths easier!
Now all fuel is in litres I find myself doing mental arithmetic in the mornings. I know the continental version is litres/100Km
That's to complex
how about MPL we could all aim for the magic 10 = 45.4 MPG
It would make my early morning maths easier!

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- Minor Legend
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Re: MPG
Yes, all you have to do is divide the litres by 4.54.
The imperial measurement system is part of our culture and owning a classic car is part of preserving our British culture under the onslaught of EU rules and regs. So be Imperial and be proud!
Keep the miles, gallons and inches and pounds alive!
The imperial measurement system is part of our culture and owning a classic car is part of preserving our British culture under the onslaught of EU rules and regs. So be Imperial and be proud!
Keep the miles, gallons and inches and pounds alive!
Cheers John - all comments IMHO
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- Minor Fan
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Re: MPG
Agree with you no end - You must keep the miles, gallons and pounds alive !!! Look at what EU onslaughts have done to real French cheese etc ! I know some older French people who still ask for goods in "livres" (which is around 500g) others still ask "what's that in ancien Francs ??"chickenjohn wrote:Yes, all you have to do is divide the litres by 4.54.
The imperial measurement system is part of our culture and owning a classic car is part of preserving our British culture under the onslaught of EU rules and regs. So be Imperial and be proud!
Keep the miles, gallons and inches and pounds alive!

Re: MPG
mine only runs on gallons, I am having none of that litres rubbish.
But I do measure in thous, millimeters, feet and CWT, and manage to drink a half litre can,
no wonder anyone in my vicinity looks bewildered when I speak.
But I do measure in thous, millimeters, feet and CWT, and manage to drink a half litre can,
no wonder anyone in my vicinity looks bewildered when I speak.

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- Minor Legend
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Re: MPG
Oh good! I enjoyed that little wind up.
What promoted it was buying a sheet of wood at the weekend on measuring it I realised it was 4ft x 2400mm!!!
What promoted it was buying a sheet of wood at the weekend on measuring it I realised it was 4ft x 2400mm!!!

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Re: MPG
Here, in NZ, you buy petrol by the litre, measure distance by the kilometer yet still quote fuel economy in MPG, at least in the classic car world. L/100km never really seemed to catch on. It doesn't seem right when talking of an older car. It does mean keeping a calculator in the glovebox (why still use that term?) though.
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Re: MPG
l/100km works really well if your milometer is in km (e.g. in the rest of Europe) and is a nice measurement to use if you're on a long journey (e.g. I need to go 250km , that'll use about ##litres of fuel..). Having driven a lot across Europe it is an easy measurement to get your head around.
Miles per litre doesn't really show the difference between driving a bit more calm etc.. as it will only change by a little bit after the decimal point. What I recon we should start using in the UK is litres/100 miles!
Whichever way you find the fuel economy you'll need a calculator anyway.
As for metrinch madness - think about tyres. The diameter is in inches, the width in mm and the profile is in percentage
Miles per litre doesn't really show the difference between driving a bit more calm etc.. as it will only change by a little bit after the decimal point. What I recon we should start using in the UK is litres/100 miles!
Whichever way you find the fuel economy you'll need a calculator anyway.
As for metrinch madness - think about tyres. The diameter is in inches, the width in mm and the profile is in percentage

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- Minor Maniac
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Re: MPG
2825 comes into it somewhere if this site is to be believed;
http://mpg.webix.co.uk/
My maths aren't good enough to work out how exactly.
http://mpg.webix.co.uk/
My maths aren't good enough to work out how exactly.

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Re: MPG
l/100km can't be converted to mpg by multiplying as they are inverse parameters (one gets smaller the other gets bigger)
I'm going to go and think...
I'm going to go and think...
Ray. MMOC#47368. Forum moderator.
Jan 06: The Minor SII Africa adventure: http://www.minor-detour.com
Oct 06: back from Dresden with my Trabant 601 Kombi
Jan 07: back from a month thru North Africa (via Timbuktu) in a S3 Landy
June 07 - back from Zwickau Trabi Treffen
Aug 07 & Aug 08 - back from the Lands End to Orkney in 71 pickup
Sept 2010 - finally gave up breaking down in a SII Landy...
where to break down next?
2013... managed to seize my 1275 just by driving it round the block
Jan 06: The Minor SII Africa adventure: http://www.minor-detour.com
Oct 06: back from Dresden with my Trabant 601 Kombi
Jan 07: back from a month thru North Africa (via Timbuktu) in a S3 Landy
June 07 - back from Zwickau Trabi Treffen
Aug 07 & Aug 08 - back from the Lands End to Orkney in 71 pickup
Sept 2010 - finally gave up breaking down in a SII Landy...
where to break down next?
2013... managed to seize my 1275 just by driving it round the block

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Re: MPG
simples
285 / (l/100km) = mpg
(I got 284.4 when I used a calculator with the conversion factors to 'not many' decimal places)
285 / (l/100km) = mpg
(I got 284.4 when I used a calculator with the conversion factors to 'not many' decimal places)
Ray. MMOC#47368. Forum moderator.
Jan 06: The Minor SII Africa adventure: http://www.minor-detour.com
Oct 06: back from Dresden with my Trabant 601 Kombi
Jan 07: back from a month thru North Africa (via Timbuktu) in a S3 Landy
June 07 - back from Zwickau Trabi Treffen
Aug 07 & Aug 08 - back from the Lands End to Orkney in 71 pickup
Sept 2010 - finally gave up breaking down in a SII Landy...
where to break down next?
2013... managed to seize my 1275 just by driving it round the block
Jan 06: The Minor SII Africa adventure: http://www.minor-detour.com
Oct 06: back from Dresden with my Trabant 601 Kombi
Jan 07: back from a month thru North Africa (via Timbuktu) in a S3 Landy
June 07 - back from Zwickau Trabi Treffen
Aug 07 & Aug 08 - back from the Lands End to Orkney in 71 pickup
Sept 2010 - finally gave up breaking down in a SII Landy...
where to break down next?
2013... managed to seize my 1275 just by driving it round the block

Re: MPG
That seems right!rayofleamington wrote:simples
285 / (l/100km) = mpg
(I got 284.4 when I used a calculator with the conversion factors to 'not many' decimal places)

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Re: MPG
yesIs l/100 km the same as litres per 100km?
rather like mpg = miles / gallons (the / is keyboard shorthand for the divided by symbol e.g ¼)
Ray. MMOC#47368. Forum moderator.
Jan 06: The Minor SII Africa adventure: http://www.minor-detour.com
Oct 06: back from Dresden with my Trabant 601 Kombi
Jan 07: back from a month thru North Africa (via Timbuktu) in a S3 Landy
June 07 - back from Zwickau Trabi Treffen
Aug 07 & Aug 08 - back from the Lands End to Orkney in 71 pickup
Sept 2010 - finally gave up breaking down in a SII Landy...
where to break down next?
2013... managed to seize my 1275 just by driving it round the block
Jan 06: The Minor SII Africa adventure: http://www.minor-detour.com
Oct 06: back from Dresden with my Trabant 601 Kombi
Jan 07: back from a month thru North Africa (via Timbuktu) in a S3 Landy
June 07 - back from Zwickau Trabi Treffen
Aug 07 & Aug 08 - back from the Lands End to Orkney in 71 pickup
Sept 2010 - finally gave up breaking down in a SII Landy...
where to break down next?
2013... managed to seize my 1275 just by driving it round the block

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Re: MPG
Per 100 kilometres feels like a bit of a bodge to give a sensible number.
I feel like an old dog unwilling to learn new tricks, MPG I understand, I'd have to convert to that to be able to say that's not bad, or that's terrible.
I feel like an old dog unwilling to learn new tricks, MPG I understand, I'd have to convert to that to be able to say that's not bad, or that's terrible.
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Re: MPG
Bodge - yes probably but it gives good numbers and it does help you know how much fuel a journey will take.
Range:
5 is excellent 8 is average. Over 10 is poor.
Over 15 is only for those who can afford it!
Range:
5 is excellent 8 is average. Over 10 is poor.
Over 15 is only for those who can afford it!
Ray. MMOC#47368. Forum moderator.
Jan 06: The Minor SII Africa adventure: http://www.minor-detour.com
Oct 06: back from Dresden with my Trabant 601 Kombi
Jan 07: back from a month thru North Africa (via Timbuktu) in a S3 Landy
June 07 - back from Zwickau Trabi Treffen
Aug 07 & Aug 08 - back from the Lands End to Orkney in 71 pickup
Sept 2010 - finally gave up breaking down in a SII Landy...
where to break down next?
2013... managed to seize my 1275 just by driving it round the block
Jan 06: The Minor SII Africa adventure: http://www.minor-detour.com
Oct 06: back from Dresden with my Trabant 601 Kombi
Jan 07: back from a month thru North Africa (via Timbuktu) in a S3 Landy
June 07 - back from Zwickau Trabi Treffen
Aug 07 & Aug 08 - back from the Lands End to Orkney in 71 pickup
Sept 2010 - finally gave up breaking down in a SII Landy...
where to break down next?
2013... managed to seize my 1275 just by driving it round the block
