Diesel Traveller

[Matt]

Personally I would suggest a 1.8 Intercooled Turbo diesel from an escort/mondeo. a TYPE 9 OR mt75 WILL bolt straight up (not sure about the clutch) and the wiring is as simple as running an ignition contriolled live to the stop solenoid.

My 1.8TDi escort estate used to be rather rapid until it met its untimely demise at only 135,000 miles

[twincamman]

Personally I would suggest a 1.8 Intercooled Turbo diesel from an escort/mondeo. a TYPE 9 OR mt75 WILL bolt straight up (not sure about the clutch) and the wiring is as simple as running an ignition contriolled live to the stop solenoid.

My 1.8TDi escort estate used to be rather rapid until it met its untimely demise at only 135,000 miles

If you get one from a late model Sierra or P100 pickup, it'll already have a type 9 attached to it.
Apparently the block is derived form the X-flow block, so it should be quite compact.

[Matt]

Yes you could but the FWD ones are far more common - and you can get the intercooled version which I dont think were fitted to sierras/P100s

[Purdydog]

Mmmm,...

Quite a few options, hadn't considered the Fords, issue with would seem to be sourcing a good lowish mileage one and cost. Older fords seem to be holding they're value - probably for the first time in their lives

[Kevin]

8009STEVE
Is the person to ask as his 6 wheel Diesel Traveller is well known.

http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f= ... 0&start=15

Just as a matter of interest my everyday modern diesel does 45 - 47 in town driving

[twincamman]

No one seems to have mentioned this engine, so I will.
What about the Toyota Yaris diesel engine?
It's all alloy, and weighs less than an A series.
It puts out 89bhp from 1.4 litres.
It may well bolt up to a Toyota T50 box, or to a type 9 with an appropriate bellhousing if the bolt pattern is the same as a 4AGE.
It was fitted to diesel versions of the 'old' 'new' MINI(if that makes sense!).
Now the petrol versions of the MINI used a Chrysler engine which is related to the PT Cruiser engine, and that engine is about the same size as a Fiat Twincam.
Logic dictates therefore that the Toyota diesel unit shouldn't be much bigger.
Has anyone got a Yaris diesel and a tape measure?

[d_harris]

8009STEVE
Is the person to ask as his 6 wheel Diesel Traveller is well known.
http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f= ... 0&start=15

Yes, but that car is basicly a butchered G Reg Diesel Fiesta with an extended trav body dumped on top. Not sure that would help the OP

[MarkyB]

the wiring is as simple as running an ignition controlled live to the stop solenoid.

This is the kicker, there may be higher output engines available, but if it means doing a "brain" transplant you are into a lot of wiring worries after all the cutting, welding and fabrication needed to make the lump fit.

[Purdydog]

This is the kicker, there may be higher output engines available, but if it means doing a "brain" transplant you are into a lot of wiring worries after all the cutting, welding and fabrication needed to make the lump fit.

My sentiments exactly Marky, one of the benefits of the travellor is its simplicity.

I'm just going through engine management / injection problems with our main Crdi car - only way to get the codes out properly is to pay the main dealer for it - not much good if your stuck by the side of the road on a wet Sunday afternoon

I like the idea of a diesel transplant, but do want to retain some of the reliability and ease of maintenance / repair of a simple diesel engine.

Regards,

P

[bmcecosse]

Well - they don't come much simpler than that Rover Metro/Saxo/etc 1.4 diesel!

[twincamman]

Well - they don't come much simpler than that Rover Metro/Saxo/etc 1.4 diesel!

Just a thought here, if the bolt pattern on the back of the block is the same as the larger XUD engine, then this should bolt up to a late Sherpa/LDV box (LT77 as in the SD1).
As far as I know, this only came with a hydraulic clutch, so bargain for a bit of extra work there.
As for the engine, it's derived from the smaller Peugeot petrol engines (TU?) . These are quite compact, but they do have the thermostat at the back of the head (like on a Zetec), so this might cause clearance problems at the bulkhead. This could possibly be overcome by either reducing the size of the wter outlet, or by using a remote thermostat setup.

[matt1975]

Hi everyone, my first post here. I've been having similar thoughts with regard to my 68 van that needs full resto. A search on the net finds a traveller with pug tud9 and borg warner 35 auto box but my thoughts are what about the tud9 with matching rwd r380 box out of an LDV Pilot? Same box as used in 300tdi and many others. Scrap Pilot van should cost peanuts and though the box maybe relatively large i doubt its bigger than the borg warner auto.

[mogmad57]

Hi matt, welcome, yes, you are one the right route with the xud pug engine and ldv box. I have a 405 1.9 td engine fitted to my van and it goes like fook, I used a FSO 5 speed box with mine, which needed a notch cut out for the steering rack, much the same as the Fiat conversion, I don't know about the ldv box size but anything is possible. Have a look here at the bulkhead mod's for the xud. http://community.webshots.com/user/mogmad56. PM me for any info, I'll be glad to help.
Andy

[MarkyB]

http://community.webshots.com/user/mogmad56

[mogmad57]

Thanks Mark

[d_harris]

Thats a really nice, neat install. I like it

[boatmoggie]

Won't the early 1800cc and 1500cc BMC diesels fit straight in? The lumps certainly look the same, including same bmc rocker cover, load of the lumps used in marine installations.

Steve

[bmcecosse]

They are B series units - the Minor has an A series engine , however the W1500 and R 1.5 use the same basic chassis and they have B series engines fitted. So it IS possible. However - the B series diesels are very 'agricultural' (used in tractors!) and won't give anything like the kind of fuel consumption that a modern diesel will give.

[morris minor man]

i will ask my mate next time i see him as all his cars have diesel engines in.i know he fits them in morris minors,and old ford consuls,diesel mad.........

[youngcamper]

sorry for the resurrection of the thread.

If you were to go down the route of a diesel engine in a moggy it seems clear to me that you would want something simple, would a metro/AX engine fit this criteria? also how would you go about mating the engine to a gearbox? does it not have the gearbox in the sump like other FWD cars ?

Will