Auto Trader Save '58 Moggy From Scrappage Scheme

Post by **'61Morris** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:57 am

I've just read that Auto Trader have saved a mint condition 1958 2 door saloon from the scrappage scheme, with the help of Hyundai. It only has 36,494 miles on the clock and it's now looking for a new home! But there's a catch - it is banned from ever driving on the road again becuase of it's new status! Here's the article:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/C ... assic.html

Post by **Dean** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:03 am

The best possible outcome considering what could have happen. Well done Hyundai, Autotrader and the scrap yard!!!

Post by **Kevin** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:24 pm

I just wonder were the owner had tried to sell the car as its condition looks great, possibly a non club member.

Post by **rayofleamington** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:49 pm

possibly a non club member.

or maybe only advertised it in the club mag and not to the outside world?

I think they may as well crush it IF there are no museum takers - the car can't be used anymore, and can't be sold or exported so effectively they've killed it anyway

The scrap yard could have used their brains and sold it for more than a grand then? It sounds like the car is only now 'hazardous waste' because they produced a scrap certificate.

I can't imagine that Hyundai will get any good publicity from this, as it just reminds folks that this country's heritage can be scrapped to help their sales.

Post by **d_harris** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:36 pm

Possibly a car for the club to take?

I'm rather worried that it may be "rung" in order to get it on the road again though.....

Post by **Ondergard** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:18 pm

That looks identical to the car I nearly bought a few months ago - some folks on here might remember it - I went to see the car in Romford (round the corner from my M-i-L), drove it, admired it, phoned next day to make an offer (after folks on here said "Buy it! Buy it!") and the owner said he was goingto keep it until the scrappage scheme cam in and get £2000 for it.

If it's not the same car, it's her twin sister!

Post by **FrankM83** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:46 pm

was going to post a lonk to this as another club (non Minor) is tryin to encourage ppl to save this car! can the club take it? I know it says can't be put back on the road but cant it be auctioned for charity?

and what's wrong with a car like this being "rung" personnaly if it was min i would take the numbers off my battered 58 saloon and put them on this, saves me lots of money and save a car

Post by **rayofleamington** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:15 pm

and what's wrong with a car like this being "rung"

completely illegal and worst case is a custodial sentence... ;-)

I'd have swapped my black 57 2-door rolling shell for it - but firstly I sold it last week and secondly that kind of thing would only be possible before it had been traded in for scrap and thirdly that kind of thing is illegal

Post by **LouiseM** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:34 pm

That looks identical to the car I nearly bought a few months ago - some folks on here might remember it

Wasn't the one you looked at a 4 door? This is a 2 door.

cant it be auctioned for charity?

No, as it can't change ownership. Organisations or museums who can put the car to good use are invited to submit their suggestions by the end of October. The submitter of the best and most worthy proposal will get to use the car for free.

Post by **Ondergard** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:40 pm

LouiseM wrote:
That looks identical to the car I nearly bought a few months ago - some folks on here might remember it
Wasn't the one you looked at a 4 door? This is a 2 door.

You might be right - to my shame, I can't remember, I looked at so many! What I remember most is my huge disappointment. Having finally made up my mind to make an offer, suddenly it wasn't there anymore.

Post by **FrankM83** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:33 pm

rayofleamington wrote:
and what's wrong with a car like this being "rung"

completely illegal and worst case is a custodial sentence... ;-)

so what? it's illegal for the law not for me

how will they every know if the car been rung?! I had a 126 Bis which was rung, bought it very ccheaply cause of that, the car was rung as it was scrapped by the family members of a deceased man, so it's had numbers from a rotted out car welded on to it, and it was a very well done job indeed, if I wasnt told about it I wouldnt have noticed!!

anyway im submitting to have this car sent to Malta

Post by **sarahgreenvan** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:46 pm

I just can't believe that they failed to sell the car. Some people obviously have more money than sense.........and how could anyone bring themselves to scrap such a lovely car.
Words fail me.

Post by **Furrtiv** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:57 pm

because people are stupid and lazy. And the scrap yard would have had to produce a certificate of scrappage because then the owner would have got his money from the government and the dealer, so it really isn't their fault, their hands are tied. Yes, they could have sold it on for more money but I think that the legality forces them to scrap these cars, even if they could get more money they'd have had to give said money to the owner anyway.
The owner obviously isn't wise in the ways of car selling.

Post by **Dean** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:56 pm

Furrtiv wrote:because people are lazy.

Seconded... it was so easy to take the £2K. For me at least the car is saved, many potential projects will not get the same attention though.

Post by **rayofleamington** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:53 pm

If only the car was saved!
It is now 'controlled waste' that resembles a car.

Post by dp » Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:39 pm

<- ranty stuff deleted
Theoretical legal question:

Suppose a car was stolen, documents were forged and it was put in for scrappage. Then, before it's crushed the forger is collared and the real owner made aware. So, the car is not destroyed but marked on the register. Can the real owner get their car back and drive it?

Post by **FrankM83** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:41 pm

my request is in

if they don't let me have it for perosnal use I might contact a classic car museum, locally and ask if they want to ship it over to use it as exhibit in their museum

Post by **LouiseM** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:02 pm

Under the terms that the car has been saved, it can not be exported.

Post by **FrankM83** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:05 pm

still worth asking eh

Post by **Kustom** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:48 pm

Being on loan to a foreign museum may be considered different to actually exporting the vehicle....who knows....maybe it will be possible

We have a nice classic car museum in Malta run by a very enthusiastic bunch of people...