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Post by **PSL184** » Mon May 25, 2009 7:38 pm

I think it "looks" great and by the sounds of it has had a lot of time and money spent on it - My point was though, that despite this it is not concours standard and therefore it wouldn't matter too much what mods you wanted to carry out on it. Except of course, the price is on the high side to start with.....

Post by **LouiseM** » Mon May 25, 2009 7:42 pm

I wasn't meaning to be negative but your post seemed to imply that you had not even looked at the vehicle and it's a lot of money to pay without having the vehicle properly checked out. As some posters on here have learned to their cost, a vehicle that looks shiney can end up costing a lot of money. Just don't want to see someone else end up more out of pocket than they planned.

Post by **aupickup** » Mon May 25, 2009 7:50 pm

certainly was not being negative

for the price its concourse money and was pointing out that it is not concourse

you can be a really good pick up for about 5K

i am certainly not suggesting that a lot of money has been put into it either

but remeber it is a garage and they are wanting a fair profit from the sale,

but as i say its not concourse but concourse money

Post by **LotusLee** » Mon May 25, 2009 10:30 pm

Hello again,
I have been offered the pickup for £1500 less than the listed price, I have said that the front bumper is wrong although I don't know what is wrong with it and the chassis tag is in the wrong place etc. I also said that the wood above the cab is for a tilt mechanism although I don't know if this can be removed, he has said I will not find a better bodied pickup and as all the mechanicals have either been replaced or rebuilt, he is convinced I would be more than happy.

Any advice at this stage would be helpful as I intend to finalise the deal tomorrow and I am going to rely on people from the club helping me along the way.

My final question is can I get the incorrect or missing things to make the pickup perfect?

All views have been welcome and useful, thankyou for your interest.

Regards

Lee

Post by **RogerRust** » Tue May 26, 2009 8:00 am

Until recently I had a councours Morris 1000. It is a well restored car but it is a lot of money. I have a couple of originality queries. The fuel pump is wrong, it has electric washers, and I think the door cards are wrong. This in no way detracts from a lovely car, but you would loose points in a concours competition for things like that.

Looking at the car overall the interior lets it down a bit, I'm very fussy about interiors because I think they make the car that bit more special.

I hope that doesn't sound like sour grapes, I sold my concours 4 door for a little more than half that price and I think it was a fair price.

Post by **ani** » Tue May 26, 2009 8:42 am

I agree that the price is high but I get the feeling that Lee wants to drive it not show it. He's already oot £1500 off the price and with a bit of cunning cheek he might be able to do better

I'm no expert in any way, shape or form but when I look at the number of hours put into restoring these pick-ups (welding, replacement parts etc etc) a low starting price doesn't always reflect the "actual" price!! A great example of this is David Miles's free pick-up - his estimate of time is 5 years - I wonder how many thousands will eventually be spent on this one! Pck-ups certainly seem to attract the buyers and like anything are worth what someone is wiling to pay and at the present time its certainly more than a saloon, traveller or van.

Post by **ASL642** » Tue May 26, 2009 11:22 am

Well, if you've fallen for this pick-up and are prepared to pay the money (after haggling!) I'd say go for it, or you'll always regret it. It will need certain things changing to make it to your taste, whether you go down the concours trail or modified one, but those can be done in the future and you will have it to drive immediately.

Post by **dalebrignall** » Tue May 26, 2009 3:48 pm

the pick up looks well sorted.if you want to modernise then go for electronic ignition,and a servo on the brakes.drum brakes adjusted correctley stop the car well.as for recomending a componey i recomend minor mania in mill hill.speak to nick,they are very good.

Post by **ASL642** » Tue May 26, 2009 3:57 pm

In answer to your question about components, yes most parts/panels are available through morris suppliers - those that aren't re-manufactured are available second hand.

Post by **aupickup** » Tue May 26, 2009 6:20 pm

you can get the door cards , but not the original door card clips

the bumper would be a shortened painted one, but not available new

the wooden strip can come off but you will be left with the fixing holes around the cab, so pro better to leave, also it does not have the cleats on the pick up sides for the tilt any way

and yes to restore a vehicle to this standard will cost many thousands

as many have found out ( not me )

but its your call it is a buyers market

try £5500.00 you never know

Post by **pao7psb** » Tue May 26, 2009 8:35 pm

Call me naive, but I am wondering for how long it will stay a buyers market - the reason I say that is that the exchange rate makes UK classics a very attractive proposition to foreign buyers right now, so I would expect to start seeing UK classics starting to go aboard in greater numbers. I saw a transporter-load of classics near the ferry port in Ireland last week, can't be sure they were UK cars bound for sale in the Emerald Isle but it isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

This is a completely unrelated point to the lovely green pick-up by the way, I'm just rambling!

Post by **aupickup** » Tue May 26, 2009 8:45 pm

it will stay a buyers market all the time this recession is on and redunancies impending, or are you out side of the recession

Post by **pao7psb** » Tue May 26, 2009 9:02 pm

Sadly not...but if I'm gettting sweet FA interest on money in the bank, why don't I put that into a depreciation-free classic car instead and enjoy myself?

If I'm paying a low variable interest rate on my mortgage right now, maybe that frees up some spare cash on which I could spend on a classic?

If I'm sat in mainland Europe watching the price of that UK classic car go from 15000 Euro to 10000 Euro because of the exchange rate, perhaps I'd think now was the time to treat myself.

It affects different people in different ways, not all of them necessarily negative...and maybe just maybe some fortunate souls are realising that they aren't as badly affected as they feared they might be before Christmas.

Post by **aupickup** » Tue May 26, 2009 9:08 pm

hmm you are one of the lucky ones

i was made redundant about 6 weeks ago

and used a lot of savings to live

Post by **d_harris** » Tue May 26, 2009 9:10 pm

The OH has only just found a job having been out of work for 6 months.....

Post by **LotusLee** » Tue May 26, 2009 9:13 pm

Many, many thanks to all the people who have responded, I have found the comments very beneficial and it also shows what a great bunch of people use this forum.

I have now agreed £6k for the pickup and I agree that I could not get a pickup to such a standard for the money, my Lotus cortina had it's original paint when I bought it and had all it's original panels including the suspension top mount plates which is very unusual, I got the car for £5k, five years ago and upto selling it last week had cost me around £15k, but I only achieved a selling price of £11,200, which was a very good price for the car. The car was very nice when finished and had won shows, but I used it as often as I could as this is why I have a classic, other people in the club always thought I was mad.

The pickup is painted body colour underneath, you cannot see a single welded plate on it, the paint finish is excellent and all the components are either rebuilt or new. I agree the interior could do with some work, but this would be quite simple to sort out. The pickup has a folder of receipts etc that is over 4 inches thick.

I have paid a high amount according to some people on here, however I feel it is worth the money purley based on the condition of the bodywork alone.

I will be taking delivery Saturday week and I hope there are some local Minor people who can inspect and advise on what to do next, so if anyone on here lives in Essex or Herts, please get in touch, I live in Hatfield Heath, near Stansted airport.

Thanks again and is there a website that I can view minor interiors on?

Regards

Lee

Post by **pao7psb** » Tue May 26, 2009 9:15 pm

Sorry to hear that aupickup, wasn't referring to my own situation, just trying to be a bit up-beat in the midst of all the doom and gloom we keep hearing about (regrettably I am not a European playboy eyeing up cheap 60's Ferraris...)

Having been to Ireland last week it just occured to me how expensive everything was and so the UK stuff must look very cheap to those with the means.

No offence intended, unreserved apolgies if any taken

.

Post by **ani** » Tue May 26, 2009 9:16 pm

I have to agree with this and nothing much changes really. Recessions come and go and the classic cars always seem to do reasonably well. Its sad for anyone having to sell due to hard times but the same principle applies even to the stock market. There are many shrewd people out there buying and they will be the winners when the recession ends. I suppose the best thing is to hold on to your classics, look after them and they will do well ....... just thinking out loud - what do I know

Post by **d_harris** » Tue May 26, 2009 9:17 pm

Well, Welcome to the madhouse then Lee....

We'll wait in anticipation of the "how do i....?" Threads....

Post by **aupickup** » Tue May 26, 2009 9:22 pm

well done lee

for a pick up that has been restored to that condition it is a good price

you will love it really, i have had quite a few in the past

keep an eye on the underside though if it has been painted, maybe clear waxoil is a good bet

and no offence taken

of course in all recessions the wealthy are still the best off, buying commodoties cheap and selling high when the time comes, but that is the stock market all the time

ok it wasnt quite so bad for me as we bought the company out

but there is a big percentage of the population that are facing eviction from their homes, and only due to the recession

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