Spare tire bracket assembly on a '61 pickup

Post by **mrsnak** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:24 am

Any idea what they look like?
There's a hole on the back of my cab that about a 3/8" bolt goes into.

Figure now that this is a pretty rare item and I need to fabricate it.

Post by **ColinChandler** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:40 pm

Hello,
The wheel clamp is very simple really and its basically just a big circular washer. Obviously one hole in the middle to suit the 3/8 bolt and the outside diameter is about 4". Its a while since I had my truck but if I remember correctly, the centre of the "washer" is dished just slightly with a recessed section that locates in the hole in the middle of the wheel to stop it wandering around too much.
Hope this helps? Obviously the production ones would be pressed out of sheet steel maybe a couple of millimetres thick but it should be reasonably easy to fabricate. Maybe a flat circular disc as the clamping piece with a short bit of tube welded on the inside for the wheel location would be a good compromise?
Cheers, Colin..

Post by **LouiseM** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:28 pm

The pickup in this link has one so you can get an idea of what it looks like:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Morris-Minor-Pick ... 240%3A1318

Post by **toginthemog** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:39 pm

louise you never fail to deliver That is some truck you found there if only

Post by **PSL184** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:22 am

Nice truck but a bit suspect. No registration and no chassis plate. DVLA will no doubt insist on SVA and either Q plate it of 09 plate it

Post by **IaininTenbury** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:25 am

Bodge of the year I once saw was a 4 1/2" grinding disc painted black to do this job. Looked reasonable convincing from a distance too! Made me look a little closer at the rest of the pickup once I spotted that though. Clever bit of improvisation really...

Post by **aupickup** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:49 am

hmm sounds fishy to me and from the guy in manchester

Post by **Matt** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:10 pm

Thats going to end up with the identity of another pickup on it....

Post by **LouiseM** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:27 pm

Late LCV's have the chassis plate on the inside passenger door rather than the bulk head so it might actually have a chassis number. In which case it won't need the identity of another pickup. Mind you it's not shown in the photo's so could be missing

Post by **mrsnak** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:59 pm

Is there a retaining plate between the outer large convex washer and away from the cab to hold the tire out slightly, or does it nest flat to the back of the cab (which would put it at a slight angle)?
I'm thinking that structurally, it would need to sit flat.

ColinChandler wrote:Hello,
The wheel clamp is very simple really and its basically just a big circular washer. Obviously one hole in the middle to suit the 3/8 bolt and the outside diameter is about 4". Its a while since I had my truck but if I remember correctly, the centre of the "washer" is dished just slightly with a recessed section that locates in the hole in the middle of the wheel to stop it wandering around too much.
Hope this helps? Obviously the production ones would be pressed out of sheet steel maybe a couple of millimetres thick but it should be reasonably easy to fabricate. Maybe a flat circular disc as the clamping piece with a short bit of tube welded on the inside for the wheel location would be a good compromise?
Cheers, Colin..

Post by **mrsnak** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:02 pm

LouiseM wrote:The pickup in this link has one so you can get an idea of what it looks like:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Morris-Minor-Pick ... 240%3A1318

Great! searched the web looking for pix, and these are the best to show detail.
You'd be interested to know that for my US left-hand drive version, they machined the bracket hole on the right side.

Post by **IaininTenbury** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:58 pm

mrsnak wrote:Is there a retaining plate between the outer large convex washer and away from the cab to hold the tire out slightly, or does it nest flat to the back of the cab (which would put it at a slight angle)?
I'm thinking that structurally, it would need to sit flat.

Far as I recall it just bolts flat against the cab back just the bolt and the round plate pulling it against the panel. Seem to remember a round tyre mark in the paint on a very worn original truck I used to have...

Post by **IaininTenbury** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:13 pm

LouiseM wrote:Late LCV's have the chassis plate on the inside passenger door rather than the bulk head so it might actually have a chassis number. In which case it won't need the identity of another pickup. Mind you it's not shown in the photo's so could be missing

The plate missing off the bulkhead is the BS standard number for the seat belt anchorages, though you'd have thought the chassis palte on the door would have been shown if it has one, however, I suspect it wont have a chassis plate knowing its history and where it came from so it will probably end up a 'ringer'. May be wrong though. If not it should technically end up a Q plate as a vehicle of indeterminate or unproven age (which is what it is) and would rather affect the value possibly... However with proof that its built out of all new parts (a difficult thing using new old stock parts) a new reg may be possible, but as a 'new car' you'd need fog lights and hazard lights and modern emmisions etc...

Whatever the legal difficulties are, Its still anice looking truck though. Probably end up in a private collection still unregistered.

Post by **d_harris** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:22 pm

Emailed the guy asking what year it was and where the chassis plate was. His response

Dear catflea789,

best thing to do is ring tony

- massey1966

Post by **aupickup** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:30 am

on the pick ups i used to have there was a machined hole both sides of the cab for the spare wheel bolt

Post by **mrsnak** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:33 pm

Here's my truck- was missing the spare tire bracket:

Here's my $10 solution:
Bought a couple 3/8" lock nuts, a 3/8" wingnut, a length of 3/8" threaded stock (came in 36" for a couple dollars) and ceiling light fixture canopy kit. the canopy piece happens to be around the right size and convex with a 3/8" hole in the middle:

Cut the length to the right size (about 7") threaded it through the machine hole in the cab (mine was a little loose for the 3/8" 16 size), and used one lock nut and washer on the inside.

Used a larger washer and the other locknut on the outside, and tightened them up.

Used the wingnut and another washer to tighten the tire in place.
Looks pretty good for a common item in the hardware store!

Post by **jaekl** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:21 pm

That lamp base got the job done. Now you can drive around looking for Spridgets. The spare is held in place using a center plate. It works great and it may even be the same part. I used one to hold the tool box I made to fit inside the spare.

Post by **mrsnak** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:42 pm

My truck is a Sporris.

(Has Sprite front disk brakes)

Post by **mrsnak** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:17 pm

LouiseM wrote:The pickup in this link has one so you can get an idea of what it looks like:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Morris-Minor-Pick ... 240%3A1318

Hmmm. seller ended listing early. Methinks he got an offer that was too hard to refuse...

Post by **davidmiles** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 2:56 pm

Hi mrsnak, here's a shot of my rather rusty one<br>

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Morris Minor Owners Club

Spare tire bracket assembly on a '61 pickup

Spare tire bracket assembly on a '61 pickup

"Yanking Ingenuity" prevails