Wingadingdings

Discuss Bodywork problems here.
Forum rules
By using this site, you agree to our rules. Please see: Terms of Use
User avatar
shymoggie
Minor Fan
Posts: 110
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 3:32 pm
Location: Bedford
MMOC Member: No

Post by shymoggie »

If you go to a trade supplier of body panels, welding supplies & such. They should have the proper mastic (in a mastic gun tube) that is used on most modern cars to seal panels when they're bolted on. This is overpaintable and will bridge little gaps. I've used some in the past and it worked well.... fraid I can't name any though - I just went to the shop and said panel / seam sealer in a tube please mister :oops:
Ems & Jim

[img]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jim_ashton/SHYMOG1.jpg[/img]
Cam
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 5109
Joined: Mon May 20, 2002 1:00 am
Location: Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, UK
MMOC Member: No

Post by Cam »

I just went to the shop and said panel / seam sealer in a tube please mister
Yep, that's the stuff!! Grey Stripe is just another trade name for seam sealer which is available in tins.
User avatar
d_harris
Minor Legend
Posts: 4388
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 3:52 pm
Location: Sunny Brighton
MMOC Member: No

Post by d_harris »

Grey Stripe is just another trade name for seam sealer which is available in tins.
Sounds just like red stripe, that appaling Jamaican lager

Kevin
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 7592
Joined: Thu Feb 14, 2002 12:00 am
Location: Watford, Hertfordshire.
MMOC Member: No

Post by Kevin »

Sounds just like red stripe, that appaling Jamaican lager
There is no bitter available in Jamaica so I found the Red Stripe a fair alternative.
But Dan not being at UNI I dont fancy trying Grey Stripe :wink:
Cheers

Kevin
Lovejoy 1968 Smoke Grey Traveller (gone to a new home after13 years)

Herts Branch Member
Moderator MMOC 44706
iwant1
Minor Fan
Posts: 121
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:51 am
Location: Bristol
MMOC Member: No

Post by iwant1 »

Ecellent stuff, i know i should grind the welds back, but dont want to grind them away and undo all the welding! you may be thinking [????] but i know they are strong, so a cover up should do! anyone ever had to repair an inner wing, while on the wings subject? mine seems to have gone rotten along the top edge where it bolts down, i dont want to replace the inner wing just make up plates and mig the son of a gun but any advice is welcome.
rayofleamington
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 7679
Joined: Fri Nov 01, 2002 2:55 pm
Location: LEAMINGTON SPA
MMOC Member: No

Post by rayofleamington »

iwant1,
To make a repair under the area where the wing bolts on you'll need to cut out the metal and weld a plate in flush. If you cut back to thicker good metal it makes the job bigger but it's easier to weld and going to last longer as well.
However it needs a reasonablr amountof skill/practice at the welding. To get full penetration of the weld, I tend to turn mine up higher and only weld in short burts, so it welds right through but doesn't have time to blow a hole.

If you just plate over the top it's not going to last long and also the wing wont fit properly anymore.
iwant1
Minor Fan
Posts: 121
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:51 am
Location: Bristol
MMOC Member: No

Post by iwant1 »

Yeah thats what i was afraid of. I have made some plates up already, so i could cut out the old metal. Is it better to weld new nuts on to the new plate or just leave in the old ones after jenoliting the rusty bits?
User avatar
d_harris
Minor Legend
Posts: 4388
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 3:52 pm
Location: Sunny Brighton
MMOC Member: No

Post by d_harris »

not being at UNI I dont fancy trying Grey Stripe
nah, we normally drink the swarfega - bit lumpy tho :lol:

rayofleamington
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 7679
Joined: Fri Nov 01, 2002 2:55 pm
Location: LEAMINGTON SPA
MMOC Member: No

Post by rayofleamington »

iwant1,
I would re-use the old square nuts, but re-make the nut holders with some stong zinc plated steel. The nut holders allow a bit of 'float' in the nut so it makes assembly a bit easier.
Plenty of people just weld on a new nut, and it's not really a bad thing for the wings compared to other captive nuts.
iwant1
Minor Fan
Posts: 121
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:51 am
Location: Bristol
MMOC Member: No

Post by iwant1 »

Yeah that sounds a good idea, do you just rap some metal around the nut, and weld the metal, but not the nut?
rayofleamington
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 7679
Joined: Fri Nov 01, 2002 2:55 pm
Location: LEAMINGTON SPA
MMOC Member: No

Post by rayofleamington »

You could make some little 'boxes with tabs' similar to the exisiting captive nut surrounds but make sure the steel is strong and it fits the nut close enough.
rupert
Minor Fan
Posts: 139
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:57 pm
Location: Bathgate, West Lothian , Scotland
MMOC Member: No

Post by rupert »

I did my rear wing mount on one side - its quite easy if you measure everyting up properly and take your time - lots of lookign and measuring and umming and ahhing!

there are some pics of mine on my website

www.littleyellowcar.co.uk

cheers

Rupert
iwant1
Minor Fan
Posts: 121
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:51 am
Location: Bristol
MMOC Member: No

Post by iwant1 »

Wow nice minor, shame i can only afford a hamerite paint finish! We have plated up the innner wing, and just drilled holes where they were originally, leaving the old ones inplace, the new metal should be strong enough to hold it all together. Also, i bought some grey stripe, so on with the wings! Cheers all, Ben.
Post Reply