starter motor bushs

Post by **mogatron** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:59 pm

hi team,
i bought some new bush's for my starter motor and they are completely different from the old ones. are there different types of motors fitted or have i got a motor from something else fitted? the starter motor i've got is a lucas and model number on it is Lrs101. any ideas?

Post by **PSL184** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:56 pm

mogatron, are we talking "bush's" (bearing type things) or "brushes" (electrical conductors) I'm not been picky but the answers may be different depending on what you are talking about

Post by **PSL184** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:01 pm

These are "brushes"...

Post by **mike.perry** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:30 pm

As far as I am aware all starter motors for Minors / Minis etc with A Series engines are mechanically the same. If you order brushes for a Morris Minor starter you should get the correct part.

Post by **PSL184** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:09 pm

There were 2 types of starter motor used. The M35G and M35J. The arrangement of the brushes and the earthing system were different but I think the brushes were the same, so as Mike says and if they look like the above picture, they shouls be correct. The part number you quoted (different to model number) is for a standard (late model) starter motor.

Post by **mogatron** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:42 pm

o yeah sorry i ment brush's. their the brush's i bought but the ones in my starter motor arn't square, there wedge shaped.

Post by **PSL184** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:38 am

They should be correct - can you post a pic of your starter motor....?

Post by **mogatron** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:42 am

yeah hopefully this'll work

Post by **mogatron** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:44 am

this the motor

Post by **minor_hickup** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:03 am

You starter motor is the later J type and has different brushes, the wedge shape ones you have pictured. It's probably had a replacement starter motor as this type wasn't originally fitted. Try ringing around suppliers to get the later type of brushes.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:40 am

They don't usually ever wear out - the ones shown look ok. Why are you replaceing them ?

Post by **PSL184** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:34 pm

You are very lucky mogatron, not many J types about these days

The replacements sold are nearly all G type but you still should be able to get brushes for them.. Try your local motor factors? I've never seen inside one so thanks for the pics

Post by **MarkyB** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:08 pm

Try cleaning off all that copper dust, it will make the smoke go to all the wrong places.
When the brushes no longer make contact with the armature (or just before) is the time to replace them.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:09 pm

Useful notes here - http://www.lotus-europa.com/manuals/mis ... l/m35j.pdf
Seems you need Lucas 227541 brushes and possibly also 227542 springs.

Post by **honda90** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:01 am

If you do a search on ebay you can find repair kits for 35J http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lucas-M35J-Starte ... 240%3A1318 and reconditioned 35j starters to fit minos, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STARTER-MOTOR-M35 ... A1318which is what I got for mine when I got a new one.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:07 pm

Well found - looks like a good deal ! Includes bushes and brushes !

Post by **mogatron** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:51 pm

super thanks team. i've just noticed when putting in back on the tron that the main spring at the end has craked. you can see in the photo. is it worth trying to source a new one if its still working?

Post by **bmcecosse** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:58 pm

Would seem wise to ensure reliabilty!

Post by **mogatron** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:04 pm

thought so. does anybody need a set of g type brush's?

Post by **PSL184** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:07 pm

Pound to a penny that I'll need some one day