Radiator position

Post by **PSL184** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:56 pm

Possibly wrong engine mounts meaning the engine is tilted up at the front slightly? How far off alignment is the crank pulley Andy?

Post by **Sidney'61** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:07 pm

Not much. The handle still touches the bottom of it, just won't slot in.
It'll just be due to the recurring fact that the enigne is slightly sideways!<br>

<br>And one of the mounts is welded on!<br>

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Post by **bmcecosse** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:35 pm

That rubber mount looks a bit too thick to me.

Post by **jonathon** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:39 pm

I'd be more worried about the offset o/s plate on which the engine tower sits, plus the welded down n/s mount.

Post by **Longdog** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:42 am

Your o/s engine mount is in the wrong place with the nearside also too far over.I suspect they are too close together which in turn pushes the engine upwards as the mounts form a wedge.The o/s mount should be alongside the tie plate edge when fitted, as should the nearside.

Post by **Sidney'61** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:43 pm

I did some measuring today and the rubber engine mount on the engine is 1 1/8" whereas the same mount on the midget engined minor is 7/8", this may be contributing to the height problem.
If i were to buy new rubber mounts and change them it may make the engine slightly lower and the radiator hoses would fit better and starter handle may fit, then again it might not make a difference at all.
I don't have an engine hoist so I'd have to borrow one but do you think it's worth doing?
and how thick should these mounts be on a standard 948 engine?

Post by **PSL184** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:34 pm

Well in theory usin 7/8" mounts will drop the engine 1/4" over what you have now. Also, no need for an engine hoist - Jack inder the sump using a flat peice of wood to protect it and you can get just enough lift to change the mounts without disconnecting or removing anything.....

Post by **Sidney'61** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:38 pm

PSL184 wrote:Well in theory usin 7/8" mounts will drop the engine 1/4" over what you have now. Also, no need for an engine hoist - Jack inder the sump using a flat peice of wood to protect it and you can get just enough lift to change the mounts without disconnecting or removing anything.....

Easier said than done

it would be easy enough to jack the engine up and change the rubber if one of the mounts wasn't welded to the floor!

theres no way it going to lift out on a jack.
I'm going to have to borrow a friends hoist so that i can take one of the mounts off then lift and swing the engine slightly to the side to slide the other rubber off...happy days

Post by **PSL184** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:48 am

I'm not following Andy - are you saying the rubber mount has been welded to the turret? The turret welded to the floor shouldn't make any difference regarding the replacement of the rubber part.....

Post by **bmcecosse** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:50 am

Just use the jack! But as pointed out earlier - the offside mounting turret seems to be in the wrong place - or are you just ignoring that !

Post by **Sidney'61** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:45 pm

I tried just jacking the engine up and found that as the rubbers are on such and angle you can't just lift them straight out as they have to come out slightly sideways, the way to resolve this problem would be to unbolt the main turret and lift that as it is flat to the floor in the first place so that can then be pulled off on an angle to replace the rubber mount.
As one turret is welded to the floor i can't take it off and with a jack i can't lift the engine on the angle that is needed to simple slide the rubber mount out, hope this makes the my problem clearer..

Anyway, don't worry, I'll get a hoist and all should be fine.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:00 pm

Lift with jack - and use tyre lever under the rubber mount to free it from the turret. The mount we can see is too thick anyway -so you could just cut through it!

Post by **rayofleamington** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:05 pm

I tried just jacking the engine up and found that as the rubbers are on such and angle you can't just lift them straight out as they have to come out slightly sideways, the way to resolve this problem would be to unbolt the main turret and lift that as it is flat to the floor in the first place so that can then be pulled off on an angle to replace the rubber mount.

It's normal that the engine won't lift straight out - Normal way is to unbolt one of the mounting towers from the engine bay floor or undo the inner bolts on both to allow them to be pushed out of the way (not poss in your case).
Jack is fine in most circumstances for raising the engine. If the engine slips when jacked or when slung, make sure nothing important is under it (hands/ arms / legs etc..)

Post by **Sidney'61** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:50 pm

Finally got it done today, a lot of jigging about but I finally got the old rubbers out and new ones in, however, it seems that these have not made any difference at all

the engine is still too high for the handle to fit.
I managed to get all radiator hoses etc. fitted and got the engine started for the first time in a few months. I'm just going to leave the position problem now as the engine ran well before and it still does now and the car handled fine, it just means I won't be able to start it on the handle.