I think ive found a new wheel that fits a moggie.

Post by **moggiemadman** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:19 pm

Hi guys,I was changing the wheels on my girlfriends 1995 1.0 16v litre Nissan micra.When i noticed that the pcd looked 4 inches.I tryed a moggie wheel on her micra and it fitted

.I also tryed her micra wheel on my moggie witch also fitted

.But the light was getting poor and it started to rain,So i had to pack up quick.I will try the wheels again tommorrow.Anybody already know about this?

Cheers
John

Post by **alex_holden** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:27 pm

The Nissan Micra is 100mm. The Minor is 101.6mm (4"). That isn't close enough.

Post by **moggiemadman** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:29 pm

How come it fits on the hub? :S

Post by **paulhumphries** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:30 pm

Micra wheels are 100mm PCD whereas Minor are 4" / 101.6mm.
Might not seem a lot of difference but although they MIGHT seem to fit the nuts won't seat properly.

Paul Humphries

Post by **moggiemadman** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:35 pm

I was sure they fit ok,I even done the studs up tight and put the weight of my vehicle on the wheel.Oh well i guess it was more wishful thinking.

Cheers
John

Post by **bmcecosse** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:00 am

You will be bending the studs - only slightly (16 thou each) - but others have suffered broken studs/loss of wheel some way down the road. Don't do it!!

Post by **paulhumphries** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:51 am

You can get what is called "wobble nuts", where the taper is floating and is supposed to take up slight discrepancies in PCD, but personally I regard such as a bodge.
http://www.serpentautosport.com/varinuts_edited-1.jpg

Paul Humphries

Post by **WPR678B** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:22 am

I lost 3 out of 4 studs on a rear wheel many years ago whilst going around a bend on an off slip ramp after fitting 100mm PCD wheels to the back of my minor. It was not a pleasant experience and one i would never like to repeat!

I dread to think of what would have happened if the fourth one had gone!

Post by **nick69** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:50 am

Make Model
Austin Mini
Austin A35
Chevrolet Monza
Chevrolet Vega
Ginetta G12
Ginetta G4
Hillman Husky
Hillman Imp
MG Midget
Morris Minor
Rover Austin Metro
Sunbeam Stiletto
Vauxhall Firenza
Vauxhall Victor
Vauxhall Magnum
Vauxhall Viva

All these have 4x101 PCD. That is good to go on any 4x4" hub.

Post by **FrankM83** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:38 am

just a question while you're at it did anyone try Toyota Yaris wheels? my pick-up came with these fitted when I bought it they seemd to fit pretty well except they needed spacers due to the centre hole being too smal for the hub

Post by **alex_holden** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:02 pm

FrankM83 wrote:Toyota Yaris wheels?

Also 100mm PCD!

Post by **bigginger** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:57 pm

nick69 wrote:Make Model
Austin Mini
Austin A35
Chevrolet Monza
Chevrolet Vega
Ginetta G12
Ginetta G4
Hillman Husky
Hillman Imp
MG Midget
Morris Minor
Rover Austin Metro
Sunbeam Stiletto
Vauxhall Firenza
Vauxhall Victor
Vauxhall Magnum
Vauxhall Viva

All these have 4x101 PCD. That is good to go on any 4x4" hub.

It isn't. PCD of a Minor is 101.6mm (4 inches). Some (if not all) of the above are that, but 101mm is NOT close enough

Post by **nick69** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:49 pm

The factory tolerance for wheel fitment on ANY new car is 0.61mm or less.

So if new factory made cars can allow a 0.61mm give then im sure other people can.

Post by **bigginger** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:12 pm

...and if you're prepared to risk it on very thin studs that are about 40 years old, good luck to you.
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Post by **Kevin** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:26 pm

Make Model
Austin Mini
Austin A35
Chevrolet Monza
Chevrolet Vega
Ginetta G12
Ginetta G4
Hillman Husky
Hillman Imp
MG Midget
Morris Minor
Rover Austin Metro
Sunbeam Stiletto
Vauxhall Firenza
Vauxhall Victor
Vauxhall Magnum
Vauxhall Viva

All these have 4x101 PCD. That is good to go on any 4x4" hub.

And the Vauxhalls use a different size stud.
Its best to just use those quoted in the sticky thread.

Post by **FrankM83** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:39 pm

Datsun Sunny wheels fit?

Post by **Pyoor_Kate** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:33 am

The problem with the tolerance being '0.61mm' concept is that it neglects the fact that it can be 0.61mm out in the wrong direction. And assuming the mog had as good-er tolerances as a modern car on the studs, which presumably have some kind of tolerance on them, then the studs could be 0.61mm out - also in the wrong direction. So you could end up with a 99.39 mm PCD wheel pulling 102.21mm studs.

You're relying on the tolerance meaning that the holes on the wheel are closer to the minor's spacing than the indicated spec might suggest, but you have to remember they can also be further from the minor's spec by just as much.

Post by **twincamman** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:09 am

Someone on the Retro-Rides forum had a mate who got killed when a 100mm PCD wheel 'let go' on his Imp.
There's plenty of choice in 4x4" in the aftermarket at least.

Try Midland Wheels to see what I mean.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:36 pm

Yes - I used Vauxhall wheels on my Mini (first non 'Works' Mini with 12" wheels!) - we made up special wheel nuts from larger size hex bar with taper to suit. They gave no problems on many many Autocross events. The original wheel nuts would have soon pulled through the larger stud holes on the Vaux wheels.

Post by **FrankM83** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:16 am

Thanks but anyone knows if Dastuns wheels fit? Thanks