Morris Minors 1948 to 1971 and the future developments .....

Post by **jonathon** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:57 pm

Due to being confined to our stand all weekend, I am just curious as to what the future development aspect of the display consisted of.

Post by **bpr81a** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:02 pm

Likewise - the only times I saw the display were Friday night and Monday morning... and there was only 1 car there then.

Post by **youngun** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:03 pm

Didnt include a marina did it?!!!!

Post by **jonathon** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:08 pm

don't know, but someone here must have seen it

Post by **rayofleamington** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:25 pm

I think it was mainly 'explained' on Sunday but I was elsewhere then.

Post by **overider** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:37 pm

the photographer was selling a disc with all the images of the day on it. might be worth an inquiary

Post by **Kevin** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:33 pm

Dont know I didnt see it either I hope someone can explain.

Post by **d_harris** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:17 pm

Didn't know there was such a display......

Post by **Peetee** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:29 am

Me neither.

Post by **jonathon** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:06 am

Things to see and do

* Club Services and Regalia sales (pre-book for collection at the event)
* The Minor Workshop (display times to be confirmed), panel beating, servicing your Minor woodwork
* Inter-Branch Challenge: Pirates of the Caribbean has nothing on this! Come and see the branch teams competing in a raft race like no other on the River Avon, in the grounds of the house!
* Morris Minor Traders
* Members’ Autojumble (Saturday only)
* The First Morris Minor on display from the British Motor Industry Heritage Trust
* Morris Minors 1948 to 1971 and the future developments – see a car from each year of production.
* Minors for sale (see application form)
* Other car clubs:Wolseley 6/80, MO, Landcrab etc

* Oxford Bus Museum with Morris Minor artefacts from the factory
* Historic fire engines
* Marie Curie – See the MMOC’s own Katie Car. Buy a sticker
* Birds of Prey
* Visit Stanford Hall House & Gardens (after 13.30 on both days; separate charge is applicable, tickets from souvenir shop)

Just saw it here as part of the intro to the National

Post by **Judge** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:33 am

As part of this display, apart from the 'official' developments, it might have included (if this was not the case) such developments as yours Jonathon, as well as other individuals modifications.

Post by **LouiseM** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:35 am

I hope someone can explain

I wouldn't hold your breath, Kevin

Mary 'Dogs to Music' Ray wasn't there either. Just a local dog training club who were at last year's rally. Not complaining, but others may have been disappointed.

Post by **Judge** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:41 am

Does anyone know if a meeting to discuss the quality of replacement parts was called? It seems that there were quite a few traders there, so it would have provided the perfect opportunity.

Post by **jonathon** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:41 am

Judge wrote

such developments as yours Jonathon, as well as other individuals modifications.'

Nope,we were not approached, and I cannot answer about the 'individuals' being asked.
We were not invited to any trader meeting over the weekend, and to be fair most traders were off site at 5.30pm . A prudent step here might be an invitation to all traders to attend an MMOC sponsored meeting to discuss the issues of parts and the working group looking at the trade.

Post by **simmitc** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:16 pm

Does anyone know if a meeting to discuss the quality of replacement parts was called? It seems that there were quite a few traders there, so it would have provided the perfect opportunity.

Tried that last year, a number of traders complained that they were too busy setting up and selling, and that the National was not the place to hold a meeting. For all the vocality of complaints, the meetings that we have held have been very poorly attended.

Post by **Judge** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:51 pm

I am sorry, but after having managed a warranty department within a large company for more than 23 years, and having dealt with a great number of suppliers and manufacturers etc worldwide, I cannot understand what is preventing a club representative gathering the relative information and investigating justifiable complaints directly.

Post by **TerryG** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:55 pm

just my 2p but would it be better to have a "virtual" meeting over IRC or similar? it would mean the traders would not all have to travel to one place to discuss the problem.
If face to face would be better wouldn't the AGM be a better place than the national. i would imagine most traders are MMOC members anyway.

Post by **Judge** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:02 pm

I personally do not feel that an AGM is the right place for this kind of meeting. However in my own case I did arrange to meet suppliers etc at shows, hence my asking about the National.

Post by **dalebrignall** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:52 pm

i did not see anything like that either,i did go and look at jlhs stand very intresting

Post by **jonathon** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:19 pm

Simmite wrote

Tried that last year, a number of traders complained that they were too busy setting up and selling, and that the National was not the place to hold a meeting. For all the vocality of complaints, the meetings that we have held have been very poorly attended.[/quote]

Well it was a daft idea to have a meeting on the friday when traders had traveled and were setting up stands and stock. Don't think many traded that evening either.
The working group was a sound ,principled idea, but to only have three meetings in two years is, maybe, a sign of the commitment to its idea by the club.
The vast majority of issues with chrome ,electricals and panels are not the traders fault, but the manufacturers. No point in shouting for better parts from traders as there is an equal camp of the public demanding ever cheaper parts. Which by nature will be of substandard quality. Simply blaming traders for parts quality will not endear them to the club and its members. The traders are well aware of the issues you/we all have which is why most do a recommended product and also like Bull Motif put a warning about parts quality in their catalogue.One must also remember that two of the largest minor traders are responsible for producing parts that have been entered as being substandard, would the MMOC exclude these traders from advertising their wares , I think not. TheMMOC ought also to sort out their policy on traders who have has CCJ's set against them due to poor quality service/practice, a guide line on this was outlined previously but it would seem that there is still some anomalies in continuity of punishment.
Believe it or not a lot of traders are not MMOC members, as traditionally the trade seem to have been seen as a group who need to be tollerated rather than actively involved in Minor matters.
This is borne out by their current exclusion from the traders working party.
The AGM might be the sensible option for a meeting, but adequate time should be allowed for both this and the AGM, otherwise we will find matters rushed, as has previously happened.
Dale, was good to see you at the show, hope you enjoyed our stand