Fitting brakes from a 1500

Post by **youngun** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:33 pm

What parts do you need, and what existing parts do you need to modify in order to convert the standard mog brakes to the ones off a Wolseley 1500/Riley 1.5??

Thanks,
YG

Post by **jonathon** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:54 pm

YG, you must be winding us up

Just PM BMecosse and save us yet another thread being locked or deleted.

Post by **youngun** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:14 pm

I wasnt actually, i didnt really know it was a controversial subject!!

Post by **jonathon** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:41 pm

PM sent

Post by **alex_holden** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:09 pm

You need drums, shoes, adjusters, cylinders, link pipes, and backplates. New shoes are available on an exchange basis. The standard Minor flexihoses and bleed nipples should be OK. I suspect the adjusters are the same too but I'm not 100% sure of that. The link pipes have the same fittings but might need to be slightly longer. You can buy new cylinders but they're a bit more expensive than the Minor ones, and it's possible to adapt the backplates to take Minor cylinders. I think this simply involves welding up the small bolt hole and redrilling it in a different position.

Post by **youngun** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:20 pm

thanks alex!

Post by **bmcecosse** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:59 pm

Yes - exactly as above - if you have the complete Wolseley brakes they just bolt straight on, simplest possible brake conversion - and they WORK!

Post by **dunketh** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:45 pm

This forum needs a 'FAQ' section where posts like this can be pruned off and stored for future reference.

Post by **southerly95** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:13 pm

Useful advice but has anyone actually done this please? Thanks, John

Post by **bmcecosse** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:42 pm

Yes (ducks down to avoid bricks) - I first did it 40+ years ago on my Rally Minor - and my current Traveller has had these brakes for for about 4 years now. Far better than the standard 8" front drums, and very easy to fit. No servo, no remote reservoir, no stripping master cylinder to remove seal - just bolt on, 1 hour per side.

Post by **bigginger** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:02 pm

Post by **chickenjohn** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:23 am

I can see the attraction of using Wolsely 1500 brakes, much less modification needed than discs and looks original too.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:56 am

Much less expensive too! Thanks for the brick Andrew!

Post by **southerly95** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:04 pm

bigginger wrote:

Thanks for reply - do the existing MM flexible brake pipes match up to the Girling wheel cylinder units ok? John

Post by **alex_holden** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:23 pm

Wolseley 1500 brakes use Lockheed cylinders. It's the Riley 1.5 that used Girling. I think the Minor flexihoses will work with both types.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:41 pm

Minor flexis fit the Wolseley wheel cylinders - can't comment on Riley, sorry. Only person I know with Riley fronts is 'wanderinstar' on here - I seem to remember he said they gave a heavy pedal, and I have a suspicion he said he had to change the flexis !

Post by **wanderinstar** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:54 pm

I did change the flexible hoses, only because you cant get a spanner on the hose to tighten them in. However as someone said, remove cylinder and fit hose then refit cylinder. Adjusters are different, they are fitted into backplate and adjust shoes via a snail cam.
The pedal did seem harder, but after a while you get used to it, I did. Same 9" dia as Wolseley but about 5/8-3/4" wider.

Fantastic brakes.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:29 am

Ahh - all explained now!

Post by **RogerRust** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:41 am

Please don't throw a brick at me.

Here is the 1500 brake set up all installed.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:10 pm

Nice picture - and it shows how the lower trunnion can no longer 'escape' from the kingpin - it will be caught by the backplate ridge. Extra free safety feature.