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Re: Ideas & Suggestions for the future of the MMOC

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Judge wrote:8. Invite younger members to take an active role at MMOC events.
A motoring organisation I am a member of introduced a discounted membership for drivers under 25, the move really helped increase younger membership. Could the club consider this as they currently encourage older members to remain with the club when they reach retirement age by giving a discount.

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and the self employed that may not get work for a few weeks or have to wait for payment :D :D
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Ideas & Suggestions for the future of the MMOC

Post by mal »

I have also found a complete contrast between club and branch, with the latter far more approachable and willing to change and help.
What planet are you living on Jon :wink: :roll: :lol:

Certainly not the case in this area :wink:

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Post by Judge »

You've approached the club then have you Mal :wink: :lol:
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Re: Ideas & Suggestions for the future of the MMOC

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leafie wrote:A motoring organisation I am a member of introduced a discounted membership for drivers under 25, the move really helped increase younger membership. Could the club consider this as they currently encourage older members to remain with the club when they reach retirement age by giving a discount.
ISTR a young woman made this suggestion at the last AGM. I can't remember what the answer was but I think it may have been "we'll look into it."
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Post by LouiseM »

A young woman?

At the last AGM?

Surely not :wink:


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Post by mal »

You've approached the club then have you Mal
If it's the local branch you are refering to Bill, yes I did 4 yrs ago :roll:
There is some good people in the branch, infact I was at an autojumble yesterday with a few of them, but as a club it leaves a lot to be desired.... infact I and several other Moggy owners in this area, wouldn't waste the petrol to go to a meeting :-?
They do however come down to several shows organised by the clubs I'm in, but always park as a group and act like they are an MG club :lol: :lol:

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Re: Ideas & Suggestions for the future of the MMOC

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alex_holden wrote:
leafie wrote:A motoring organisation I am a member of introduced a discounted membership for drivers under 25, the move really helped increase younger membership. Could the club consider this as they currently encourage older members to remain with the club when they reach retirement age by giving a discount.
ISTR a young woman made this suggestion at the last AGM. I can't remember what the answer was but I think it may have been "we'll look into it."
Up against the change is bad brigade? :lol:

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Post by dalebrignall »

the point was raised at the agm about a discount for students to become members.this would encourage younger people to join.being 39 i am a younger member,i am able to chat to people of all ages and have gained a lot of knowledge from the website.i think all clubs have a certian click,but that will always be the case.i have thrown my self into going to shows and rallies,and have met some nice people.i went to the rally at brooklands today and it was fantastic with the test hill being used and a cavlicade of morris and austin cars.i think that at rallies we need to have a little more going on ie how to service your car,tips on doing up the body work that kind of thing,rather than parking on a line and eating your sarnies,with a knotted hanky on your head.moggies are fun and trendy looking cars,they are time less and as a club we need to encourage younger people to join or there will not be a future for the club in years to come dale.
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It appears to me that a lot of the local branches just use the mmoc name for what they think is there own private club and don’t want new members to come in and rock there little boat. I have spoke to members that have been to local meeting and just ignored. They had tried to talk and join in but only got one-word answers and short sentence replies.
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Post by chrisd87 »

I joined the MMOC when I was 16, I'm now 20 so I'm definitely a 'younger member'. For me the club is three things - this website, Minor Matters and the insurance scheme. I've been to one branch rally in Cambridge, the website rally a while back at the Haynes museum and a couple of nationals.

One of the things that really puts me off taking a more active role in the club is that even in my very limited experience there seems to be an awful lot of 'club politics'. It seems to surface occasionally on this board and I find it rather confusing (given that I have no idea about the past disputes that are being referred to) and is something that I really would rather not get involved in. I just want to enjoy my car!

Out of interest, does the MMOC have any paid staff? One of the main problems that seems to be emerging is that many people don't have enough time to put more into the club. This is perfectly understandable given that most lead fairly busy lives, so wouldn't want to spend what little free time they have doing potentially quite menial work for the club. For example, I imagine when planning rallies and such like there is a fair bit of paperwork that most volunteers would rather not spend their time filling out. Perhaps employing one or two people even part time might be a good idea to do the boring donkey work?

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I have spoke to members that have been to local meeting and just ignored. They had tried to talk and join in but only got one-word answers and short sentence replies
Glad people in different areas find the same attitude :wink:
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Hi mal, The guy I was talking about went to four meeting and still not one person said welcome to the club or introduced themselves. People only talked to him if he spoke to them. He called it a day at that point and said he would never join the club again unless it changed. This then shines bad light on the mmoc club in general and he never renewed his national membership.
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Post by DAVIDMCCULLOUGH »

Judge, youve certainly hit on a hot topic!! Im 31 and have been a member of the Northern Ireland Branch for 15 years and served on the committee for for about 13. We have a few members younger than me and a youngish committee. I do think this helps with peoples attitude. Many of the branches and the national club will have had the same people in office for many years, doing the same job. Dont get me wrong im not knocking what anyone does as it all voluntary, but new faces bring new ideas and hopefully stop the cliques taking over. At our agm each year there is generally at least one new person voted on and often moves within the posts. Ive recently taken over as editor of wing mirror, our local magazine and included the website address.

This year we are organising a rally with the Scooter Club of NI, this is a very young bunch and helps to attract a diifernt crowd to come and see our cars. We also include non minors at our regional rally and often our meeting nights have more non minor owners attending!!


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Post by Judge »

The future of the club is very important to me, as you have probably realised, but unfortunately it has been my experience that there seems to a definite reluctance to accept change, hence my reason to resign both my position on the committee and as Chief Concours Judge.

I hope that simply as a member of the club I can continue in its support. However I feel that your posting contains a number of very relevent points, particulary in relation to new faces, Unfortunately the Clubs AGM is generally attended by less than three quarters of one percent of the total membership, and rarely is anyone new voted on as a result of this meeting.
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Post by alex_holden »

I got the feeling at the AGM that the committee had already decided what they wanted to happen and they just wanted the attending members to approve their decisions. The excuses they came out with for not allowing a concessionary rate for disabled members were frankly rather poor. There were very few young members present (I can recall myself, Matt, Onne, and the aforementioned student) and less than a dozen Minors in the car park.
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I can't speak for any other branch but I would like to say that at out branch we have about 12 under 25's (o.k few are at uni at the moment) but come the holidays they're back + cars taking a very active part in our branch. They have their own "spokesperson" who often suggests their ideas to the rest of the club - they have bar b ques and organise road runs which we go on as well. If they have problems the rest of our branch muck in with the loan of a drive tools a garage and sometimes the odd shoulder when it all goes wrong.

I thinks all branches can do this - we keep in touch out of "member nights". When a new member comes to the meeting they are invited to announce their name, and what car they've got they're given a drink and made to feel part of the meeting - a valued addition to the branch. And they return the next month - so we must be getting something right. We're already sorting whos going to the National!

By the way the Birmingham branch age ranges from 10 to 78! :lol:

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Post by Kevin »

Ouch from the previous remarks certain areas do need some improvement.
Lou`s branch is certainly fortunate to have so many younger members so they are obviously doing things right.
For some branches it may be down to the location of the meeting place that stops younger members from coming alone as I cant find a definative reason why we cant get more younsters along to our branch and its not through lack of trying as we recruit at every opportunity and our membership has stayed around the 40 -50 mark for quite a few years which is not too bad as in recent years as we have had a few of the older members depart for a better place.
We also believe in giving a warm welcome to any new attendees to our meetings and believe in the more the merrier pricepal.
A slight drawback we have is location with few members actually having any space to help others out with problems on their cars but we do try and find a way round that where possible, also we suffer from members work work all sorts of hours so cannot attend as often as they like.
What I was surprised at were remarks from a couple of recent new members who moved to our area to what I thought was a bit of an old chestnut that really didnt apply any longer is that they were relieved at the way our branch operates (organised chaos seems reasonably fair) because they had belonged to branches and been to rally's where they came across (I am sure its not the same fellow, either that or he gets around a heck of a lot)
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Now these types of characters dont even have the savvy to realise that maybe thats how the owner wanted it and instead of asking about the car and the owner (showing a bit of interest) they just go into one telling the owner what is wrong with the car when thats the last thing they want to hear (unless they asked of course) and this them puts them off thinking we are all like that. If we did that at our branch I think we would be down to the few members that like originality on their cars but certainly agree that its the owners choice what the car is like and the most important thing is to keep as many on the road as possible.
The other problem for many branches is the SHEEP factor and we do indeed suffer from this, the committee is the main driver of our branch and we are always trying to recruit (con) people onto it one way or the other (well done Dale) to come up with new ideas no matter how off the wall they may appear as a bad idea will often spark off a good one. The biggest problem we have is that most just follow along with no input they will turn up on the day but offer no help in the organising/arrangeing and some moan that it wasn't what the expected, so we ask what do you suggest and often the response is silence.
Unfortunately this means that we on the committee decide what events to go to as a branch otherwise things wouldn't get done if we left it up to the SHEEP Not that we complain (well not much anyway) because in the end we get the pleasure out of going to a variety of events inspite of most of the committee being 'olds' and we are always open to suggestions, also we would always say if you dont like something about your branch do something about it which sometimes is easier said than done when you have a committee that won't look forward (I hope thats not our branch) but having said that there are plenty of critics of branches out there which is fine, but have they voiced their opinions to the branches concerned and I am afraid the answer is no they moan to others but not to those concerned.
By the way I recemtly found out that we have 2 other independant branches so to speak, I have always known about the Cornwall one for a long time but recently I came across another in Sussex who are around 80 strong and I wonder how they were upset to become independant.
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Post by motherofgod »

I've found this thread very interesting. I think you'll always get MR/MRSWRONGSTEERINGWHEELFORTHATYEAR. You just have to take with a pinch'. I get alot of varying comments about my car not all nice but it's there opinion so I think what the hay! Im 37 nearly 38 in 15 days so Im not going to be ageist . Im not a MMOC menber or of my E sussex branch, but I do enjoy coming on the forum with problems, and sharing info, it's a great resource, I don't make the time to join the club but still enjoy being a small part of keeping the minor spirit alive!

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