Which oil filter?

[Orkney]

73 scabby trav - its not the scew on type so cartridge/cannister.

Desperately need one and seen a couple on fleabay.
One is the coopers filters catridge type (P/N G714) - tother is felt but says minor only to 71. (Crosland number 228)

Anyone know or is the only way to find out to take whats on there off?

[HarryMango]

73 scabby trav - its not the scew on type so cartridge/cannister.

Desperately need one and seen a couple on fleabay.
One is the coopers filters catridge type (P/N G714) - tother is felt but says minor only to 71. (Crosland number 228)

Anyone know or is the only way to find out to take whats on there off?

The last Traveller was produced in April 1971 - both 948 & 1098 engines use the same filter element which is available through all Minor spares places.

Rog

[Orkney]

Well never did get to the bottom of why it was 1st registered in 73

These are the ones i'm looking at




Its cheaper to buy them from fleabay etc for just the one thing rather than the normal suppliers, have to get a few things at once or the postage is extremely prohibitive

[alex_holden]

I've never seen one like those in the top picture before.

[Orkney]

found yet another type


Heres the link to the 1st type Alex - says they are felt

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MORRIS-MINOR-MIDG ... dZViewItem
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[MoggyTech]

The correct oil filter by FRAM is part number CH816PL, you should be able to cross refrence that to other makes. But FRAM are the best filters on the market, I will use nothing else as it is a vital component. Champoin part number is X101

[IaininTenbury]

All the ones in the pictures look ok, assuming they're the right dimensions, which they look to be. The fluffy ones in the top pic look to be very old stock, but they should be fine. I normally use autojumble finds, which vary from a few years old to labelled " From '48-'52 only not suitable for Series 2" No mention of anything after Series 2!

[Axolotl]

As far as I can tell, there were two types of filter assembly fitted to engines with the full flow filter (948 and 1098cc), Tecalemit and Purolator.

I think the Purolator element is the felt "furry" one in the first photo, and the paper cartridge type one is the Tecalemit. The Purolator filter housing has two large re-usable metal pressure washers one above and one below the felt filter, whereas the Tecalemit one has only one pressure washer, underneath the filter cartridge

The paper cartridge type element can be used for either type of filter housing, the furry felt type type filter should only be used in the Purolator housing with the two pressure washers.

If I've remembered right, the Purolator housing has a flatter bottom (the Tecalemit has a cone-shaped bottom).

I may have got the names backwards, but the key thing is that you can use the paper cartridge type element in either, and you can only use the felt type in filter housings that have the two pressure disks.

I'm trying to confirm exactly which is which, but at the moment, I can't find where I originally read the above.

See update to this post, further down thread. I did get the names backwards

[Orkney]

thanks Axolotl, just what i needed to know, scaby has the cone at the bottom of the canister so cartridge not felt it is !

[Axolotl]

O.K., update on this, now I'm awake, and following a bit more research. I did get the names backwards above. (Trouble with doing things from memory).

The "easy" bit is that the paper type filter fits all.

The furry felt type flter is the oldest type of filter, designed for long life between oil changes with non-detergent oils. It can't trap such fine particles as the newer paper elements, but can trap more dirt before it blocks, because the particles are trapped within the felt, as well as over the surface.

In fact, both Tecalemit and Purolator originally made filter housings with the two pressure washers, called "clamped filter" housings, designed for the furry felt elements.

Tecalemit housings were marked "Tecalemit" and have a square sectioned rubber sealing washer at the base, where the bolt goes through. Purolator housings are unmarked, and have an "O" ring seal at the bottom. I think these are the cone shaped bottoms.

It looks like later housings from about 1964 onwards were all Purolator, and had only one pressure washer inside, "unclamped filter" housings, and were designed for the new paper elements. You can, at a pinch, use the furry felt filters in the single pressure plate housings, but they weren't designed for each other.

[Maguire]

The correct oil filter by FRAM is part number CH816PL, you should be able to cross refrence that to other makes. But FRAM are the best filters on the market, I will use nothing else as it is a vital component. Champoin part number is X101

I only use Fram, they are very reliable and have a resonable life span.

[lalaw]

I borrowing this thread...
I removed the oil filter housing on my 1098cc engine which I'm about to fit in my minor. The filter was of the fluffy type at the top off this thread.
But there was no " Oil Filter Bowl Plate" and no spring, doesn't that type of filter ned the plate? Can I use the paper filter? or should I use the housing from my 948cc engine instead?
Br Lars

[Orkney]

Ive got an exploded pic of it that someone sent me - 0.5mb - PM your email and i'll send it through to you.
Looks like and from another thread on the subject it does need the plate & spring - i had those but a rubber seal missing too.

[bmcecosse]

You MUST have the plate/spring etc - if they are not present then the filter can do no filtering! Trouble is they can stick to the old filter - and are easily thrown away with the filter - although one diagram I have seen somewhere includes a little clip to secure all the plate/spring/seal etc parts on the shaft - to stop them getting lost! My own car doesn't have that - they are all present - but not secured.
If the parts are there in the 948 housing - then yes, use them !