Some advice appreciated re-furbished Traveller (new pics now

Post by **Kevin** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:32 am

the car will be pampered and be lucky to live in a heated garage.

Sounds better than my house

Post by **chickenjohn** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:41 am

ptitterington wrote:-snip-for the forseable future, the car will be pampered and be lucky to live in a heated garage. -snip

In which case regular sanding and application of oil the wood should be OK- fine for a pampered sunny day show car. Just don;t use the car as a daily driver in the rain or in the winter or the wood will soon look terrible!

Post by **ptitterington** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:51 am

I do plan to use the car as it will be replacing my run around, as a builder I normally use the lorry of van. But will keep a very close eye on the woodwork and if the oiling becomes too much trouble I will probably go for the burgess system.
The french polisher working on the site has just sorted out a load of Iroco doors and windows and they now look great with a clear Sikkens on them.

The heated garage is not intentional, just the heating pipes for the flat above run through and keep the chill out of the garage as it has a nice tight fitting sealed door.

Post by **Kevin** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:56 am

The heated garage is not intentional,

Just like the better weather you have over there

Post by **dunketh** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:20 am

Come to Jersey and see the buildings covered in black cedar.!!

I like Jersey, its like I imagine England was many years ago. Clean streets, happy people and well kept towns.
Apart from being violently sick a the mere thought of a ferry crossing it was a nice day out.

Post by **ptitterington** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:59 pm

Jersey is a pretty good place to live, it is very expensive but the fact that there is very little serious crime and nearly everyone gets caught (well we do have Jim Bergerac after all!) makes it worth while.

I was quite shocked to see in the stolen section, a car refurbished by Charles Ware was stolen from the MOT station!!

Something I was wondering about, I dont think an immobiliser is an option, but my dad fitted a secret switch to the fuel pump on my first minor, a thief would get a few hundred yards then think the car had broken down and probably leave it undamaged. Is this a common practice still?

Post by **wibble_puppy** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:20 pm

ptitterington wrote:Something I was wondering about, I dont think an immobiliser is an option, but my dad fitted a secret switch to the fuel pump on my first minor, a thief would get a few hundred yards then think the car had broken down and probably leave it undamaged. Is this a common practice still?

Yup. One of several possible switch/immobiliser options

Post by **chickenjohn** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:06 am

Yes, you could of course take the rotor arm with you when you park up- its dead easy to remove and replace.

Post by **ptitterington** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:46 pm

yes I have done that a few times when leaving the car overnight.

Post by **Orkney** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:42 pm

It's looking BEAUTIFUL !

a comment on the danish oil.....
few years back commisioned new windows for the house - be modern ie double glazed but look the same as the originals externally.
Duly they arrived and so did 2 gallons of danish oil the reccomended treatement (this was new ground)
Before fitting must have given them 20 serious coats of the stuff - then more once fitted - daresay was akin to having them dipped and soaked.
Well it wasnt the winter weather that did the finish in - but surprisingly the sun - the lightening and bleaching of the surface (these are dark brown / red hardwood) combined with salt - the sun at least being more intense on Jersy.
The result is that with a lot of small windows one by one they will be coming out, to be prepared and then be treated with one of the sikkens finishes - the only 2 ive used were called cetol and rubrol IIRC - waterproof, breathable and good for 20 years when applied properly.

Thought it worth a mention as scabby's woodwork is in serious need of looking at and no way whatsoever oil is going to be an option.
Yes some of these finishes cost a fortune but as i learned with the windows it would be better and cheaper to have used one than to have to be oiling all the window frames several times twice a year.

Post by **ptitterington** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:33 pm

Trying to save on a new post.

I have had a letter from Aon Insurance saying that even though I will have a reciept for the cost of the car from C.Ware, they cannot accept this as an agreed value as it is more than the value in the classic guide.

How do I go about getting an independant valuation from a specialist or classic car club as asked? (Especially as I will be collecting the car and shipping to Jersey) or do I just accept that it is not possible. Does anyone know of the outcome of the car stolen that C. Ware had restored and was getting MOT. I presume his insurance covers up to his value of work.

Post by **MoggyTech** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:21 pm

C Ware are specialists, so I think your insurance company will only accept the value of a Condition 1 Traveller, which at present is about £5,500 tops.

Maybe worth trying Firebond/Carol Nash/Footman James etc.

Perhaps one of the concours chaps could give some advice, about better than condition one Insurance values.

Post by **millerman** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:43 pm

Talk to Charles, I used to insure with them and the company was Wren.

Post by **jonathon** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:51 pm

I do not know where the mags get their ideas of a cars worth. How can they possibly expect the value of a £15K, plus restoration, to equate to £5,500, tops, its utter madness and is undermining the restoration business by keeping the true value to a totally unrealistic limit.I totally understand that you will not recover the full cost of a restoration,but 2/3's is the normal return on this type of work.
If they are going on what people actually pay then the mint original or fully restored Minor is too much of a bargain, Great if you are buying, but how many people can afford such a loss if selling their pride and joy. And will this spell the end of top end rebuilds.

Post by **Axolotl** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:58 pm

Try RAC classic insurance. My traveller is insred through them, (actually operated by Towergate, Hall & Clarke). They gave me an agreed value of £6,500 two years ago, based on Charles Ware's statement of valuation and current photographs. They renewed this year for the same value, no questions asked.

You may never get back what you paid for a complete restoration, though.

Post by **Kevin** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:05 pm

Peter as a specialist CW should be able to give you an ageed valuation for the car out local specialist does for insurance purposes and so do certain club members it might be worth contacting Rob Tommason the club Tec Advisor as he will probably no if there is someone local to the car that could do it for you perhaps.

Post by **ptitterington** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:24 pm

Thanks for the suggestions, Charles Ware has put me in touch with someone.

Some more blurred pics, they cannot hold a camera still!

or maybe the car is just a bit blurred

They make it look so easy.

Post by **dalebrignall** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:31 pm

she looks a treat,they did a good job on mine very happy with it.

Post by **dave1949** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:44 pm

pics

did they ever spray a moggie in envy green?

Post by **ptitterington** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:56 pm

Ha ha but....There is in fact a Government directive that states that all Green Morris Travellers are to be repainted in Maroon, Trafalger Blue or black. Once this has been completed, the white ones are to be rounded up ...........