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sounds like you have some experience of that ray..,...
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only seen it on telly - documentary giving on the top ten reasons ppl die in road accidents.
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im sure, i bet you decided to see if it really was flammable using a blowtorch.......
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...curiosity'll get the better of you!
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me? i was suggesting ray did it!
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Nah, ray! :D
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Well............................

Before welding through it I did actually apply a blowtorch to a small patch of it and it did not catch.

So I welded through a puddle of it and it smoked a lot but did not catch fire.

So the stuff I had did not respond to a blue flame or red hot steel??

Strange that you saw some catch fire Ray??
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a puddle of it
how long had it been a puddle?
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how long had it been a puddle?
Well thats a bit personal :wink:
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He he!!

Quite a long time I suspect (well at least over 18 months anyway to my knowledge). But the stuff I tried with the blowlamp was fresh stuff from Halfords (in the black gallon tub).
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Matt wrote:sounds like you have some experience of that ray..,...
rayofleamington wrote:only seen it on telly - documentary giving on the top ten reasons ppl die in road accidents.
then
rayofleamington wrote:But the stuff I tried with the blowlamp was fresh stuff from Halfords.
Have you been telling us porkie-pies? :lol:
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Well, the only thing I can imagine is that they changed the formulation but that's only a guess..............
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Brake fluid is primarily a hydrocarbon ie. and oil, so it will burn, but the amount of energy needed to make it catch will be huge, think about how hot brake componants get, the fluid needs to withstand these temperatures so it doesn't vaporise/expand and decrease the braking efficiency
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then

rayofleamington wrote:
But the stuff I tried with the blowlamp was fresh stuff from Halfords.
erm since when has my name been Cam????
Do you write for minor Monthly?
thanks for the miss quote - don't try it on Chris though... he gets narky about it ;-)
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Yes, 'twas me that wrote that bit.

It's interesting though isn't it?? I might try it again to make sure this weekend when I am in the garage...............if I remember......
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Post by rayofleamington »

try heating something red hot and dropping it onto the puddle of brake fluid.
I still don't understand why the blowtorch didn't work but maybe it was the reduced oxygen levels due to the gas flame (flimsy excuse of a theory).
I used to deal with brake fluid hydraulics, and people always got nevous about fire risk.
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Post by Cam »

and people always got nevous about fire risk.
Yes, I know what you mean, which is why I tested mine with the blowlamp in a controlled (ish!) way first before welding through it.

I like the red hot idea. I'll give it a go. In fact I might try a few different methods of ignition to see.
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A prize for whoever spots the pyro!

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He he!
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Post by rayofleamington »

I think I grew out of my Pyro stage when I was 13...
was good fun at the time though :-D
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