[b]New Venture[/b]

Post by **PaulAylett** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:38 am

Hi,

Over the last few years I have become very disapointed with the range and quality of tools and workshop equipment being sold at shows and events.

Its got to a point where friends and family have suggested offering an alternative at shows and supplying high quality instead of the norm.

I would just like to know what other people think as this could be a costly mistake if I go ahead.

I would appreciate any comments or feedback

Kind Regards

Paul

Post by **Orkney** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:57 am

well not to throw a spanner in the works

but would imagine that would be one heck of large capital outlay. I mean if they are expensive to start with & whats the potential profit margin on such things?
Could be a market though but youd need to have a website & possibly ebay shop doing work for you too.

Post by **PaulAylett** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:15 pm

Cheers Orkney, yes your right the outlay will be big, along with the cost of a purpose built web site and design.

I have spoken to suppliers and web designers and at the moment all the sums add up, the only issue is establishing the publics view on tools and if there's a market for this.

Your view would be helpful for me

Cheers

Post by **bigginger** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:51 pm

I'd be interested in being able to see a variety of GOOD tools in the same place, certainly. Can I take it you're gonna be holding the more 'grown up' (obscure - from bead rollers to panel beating tools), or is it the more 'domestic' things?

Post by **PaulAylett** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:35 am

Yes the more grown up things, there are so many domestic product traders we dont need another one.

Quality trade tools, and worshop equipment, if there is any certain field people require tools and feel is important to them let me know, it will assit me in my market research

Cheers

Post by **bigginger** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:40 pm

Metal cutting amd shaping for me

Post by **chickenjohn** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:19 pm

"Metal cutting amd shaping for me "

same for me! Currently there is only one company selling restoration tools like this and they are very expensive- (name suggests cold mornings;-)) if you could sell the same quality or the same exact tools but at a cheaper price, then yes, there would be a good market.

Post by **PaulAylett** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:34 pm

Fantastic, this is the sort of good feedback I am looking for. When you have only one supplier they seem to dominate the market.

I see no reason why we can't talk to the producers and if the market demands this sort of tooling, supply at a realistic price via lower overhead at shows , websites etc...

Post your view now and tell me what your looking for in a tools suppliers, let me know..............

Paul

Post by **alex_holden** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:09 pm

Good quality products, well designed online store that makes it quick and easy to find what you want and buy it, fast delivery, reasonable postage rates, friendly service, NO SPAM (several suppliers are on my "no repeat business" list because they spammed me). I'm not necessarily looking for a vast amount of choice or the lowest prices.

Post by **PaulAylett** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:15 pm

Good point alex, I dont much like general rubbish being sent everytime a new spanners on the market either. however I am always open to new technology and tool development.

I suppose it could be said a good supplier should talk to there customers and establish what there aims and wants are and avoid just spaming everyone.

It's only when peple talk about what they want and need, can we get together and demand higher standards, seems to me there are many more frustrated people who want the same thing. talk to suppliers tell them what you want thats what I say, only then can we actually do something about it.

Post by **aupickup** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:38 pm

there is a market for good quality fit panels, chrome etc for us

Post by **les** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:01 pm

I don't think you can beat good tools, but I wonder if many people feel the same today. Yes some people here may be keen to buy tools, but it would need more than that to make a venture like this viable, good quality tools are around and expensive , I'm thinking there may be a reason for this, are you sure you can get the same cheaper, to compete you need to buy in quantity to get a good deal and from your point of view, need to sell. These are my thoughts which of course may be completely wrong and you go on to make your fortune! If you do go ahead, good luck and send me your catalogue! Reading this back it sounds pretty negative, hope you read it as a balanced view.

Post by **bigginger** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:58 pm

It would be nice to see a variety 'under one roof' though, with some kind of quality assurance. I've bought some real junk from a company we know and love

Post by **PaulAylett** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:19 am

Thanks guys,

The situation as I see it is far from perfect, only a handful of companies are really selling quality trade tools such as metal working and shaping.

The reason being they are individually selecting these tools from seperate manufacturers and putting together there collection.

Don't get me wrong this is not going to be easy by any stretch,and if the support is not there it wont work,which is why this forum is so important. Collectively if the demand is there we need to work together to get these products to market at a realistic price.

So tell me what your looking for in a tool company, what gets your goat, where do you buy your tooling ?

Post by **bigginger** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:11 pm

Bear in mind that you're not allowed to give companies bad press here, tempting though it may be

Post by **chickenjohn** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:23 pm

Hope you don't mind me deleting this but is too close to the wind with regard to our T&Cs

Rogerrust.

Post by **millerman** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:17 pm

and this one

Roger

Post by **DanRodd** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:21 pm

Yes i would be interested,things like pipe flaring tools,tinsnips,decent soldering eqiupment etc.Im one of those who can never have enough cheap tools,but like to seek out decent tools that are used most regularly,so in my case,an absolutely fantastic 1/2" spanner!!!

Post by **chickenjohn** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:23 pm

Believe it or not Halfords spanners and sockets are pretty good.

Post by **bigginger** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:35 pm

It's true - wouldn't be without my H'fords ratchet spanners