Scotland: Eglinton this weekend

Post by **badfelafel** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:40 pm

Anyone going?

I was planning to pending an MOT.

Good news on the MOT - replaced a brake cylinder at the back and the steering gaiter, and thats it.

Bad news is non MOT (but should have been)
The front brakes are binding when the car warms up...

So if its repaired by Sunday, I'll be there!

PS Tried to PM BMC but keep getting some error debug message!

Post by **badobsession** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:08 am

hi yes i will be at the show on sunday .
as will at least 10 other minors (on the club stand )
, booked for 15 cars and so far have 10
cars booked to go.
will have some spaces left if any one
wants to come .
mark..

Post by **badfelafel** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:15 am

will find out tomorrow / sat if my minor is a runner!

Post by **badfelafel** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:22 am

if my minor is AOK and happy for sunday, whats the best way to book a last minute place ... should i book provisionally?
thx
PMs still not working

Post by **badobsession** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:09 am

hi
if you haven't booked in you wont get in they do not do late entrees . lol

it is to big a show 400 + cars the show usually books out way be fore the cut off date .

as i have posted i booked for 15 cars on the club stand and for one reason or another some of the regulars cant make it this time so i have 4 poss 5
spaces. you will need to meet me and i will give you a no, this will get you in to the show, i usually post them out but no time now.
pm me and i will give you my mob no to phone me when you arrive .
let me know thanks
mark..
hope the car makes it .

Post by **badfelafel** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:15 am

thx mark
i dont know if its just me, but i cant PM just now
i get an error that says debug!

Post by **badfelafel** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:07 pm

Oh well, brakes still not working.

Probably not going to Eglinton

am disappointed

Post by **bmcecosse** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:33 pm

Barry - it was miserably wet and very poorly attended - I left after an hour! Hopeless show anyway - virtually NO autojumble. Your caliper pistons just need freeing off! This has to be done all the time with Minis etc that are not in everyday use - and your car was standing for a while. The other STRONG possibility here is that whoever fitted the discs did not bother to modify the master cylinder (it's a bu$%£& of a job) to stop the slight pressure retention that is built into the design for use with the drum brakes. This WILL slightly drag the brakes after they have been used once, yet they will be free when first going to the car after it has been standing. So check it out - are they free to turn when the car has been standing for a while ?

Post by **bigginger** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:44 pm

bmcecosse wrote: The other STRONG possibility here is that whoever fitted the discs did not bother to modify the master cylinder (it's a bu$%£& of a job)

It isn't ;)

Post by **badfelafel** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:10 am

PMs still not working!

Shame about Eglinton

Car is in a garage, better get it out, as everytime they look at something its another £100!

They replaced the hose to the brake already (taking an hour plus the part)

BMC so does your diagnosis fit:
is fine just after the car has been sitting
it only begins to hold after the car has been running for a bit (30+mins)

Post by **bmcecosse** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:32 pm

Sounds like it to me! Can't remember if you have a servo - but don't think so. Otherwise i would blame the servo. If they are free when it's been standing then there is nothing wrong with calipers/brake pipes/flexi pipes etc - I remember we were able to push/pull it out the garage without any difficulty. So - it's almost certainly the modification to the master cylinder that has been 'overlooked' by whoever fitted the discs. Big Ginger keeps saying it's easy to do - so ask him!!

Post by **bigginger** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:46 pm

Circlips pliers, pull out internals (few years since I did one), remove the top hat rubber, replace. I"ve never said 'easy', just that it's NOT monumentally hard to do.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:52 pm

Ah - THAT PART isn't difficult - but the getting to the master cylinder - that's the difficult job!

Post by **bigginger** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:08 pm

Again, I've never found that as hard as you do.

Post by **jonathon** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:14 pm

Which discs are you running, Marina/Ford/other. Who's kit is it, if Ford either alloy or steel hubs, Marina either modded hubs or re engineered stub axle.

Post by **badfelafel** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:14 pm

Have put my reply in a question on the mechanical forum, thought it would be better:

http://www.morrisminoroc.co.uk/index.ph ... 528#161528

thanks!

Post by **bmcecosse** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:05 pm

Jonathon - Barry says the discs are free when the car has been standing - but after use they are dragging - which the MOT lad is failing. It's almost certainly the master cylinder holding the pressure up and dragging the discs. I know it's running standard Minor wheels - I didn't pay much attention to the disc type or the hubs.

Post by **badobsession** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:55 pm

just a note about the ayrshire classic show at Eglinton.

it was a poor day but only weather wise yes it was non stop rain .
but the organizers still have to put the effort in to make the show happen and over 200 cars did turn up on the day (remarkable given the weather)
you can not DISS a show just because the weather was bad .
and no show now a days has much in the way of auto jumble it all goes on e-bay .

i had 10 cars booked on the club stand and 9 turned up we had the party gazebo up and stayed dry but we did get very wet taking it down ......
the show was wound up early as the rain hadn't let up all day and very little public had come out but still had a over 30 class winners in the ring .

our clubstand winner a blue convertible did not win .

but the morris minors club stand took best of show and we got a very nice trophy .

you had better bring the minor next time and be on the winning team ..
lol .
mark..

Post by **bmcecosse** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:01 pm

It was good to talk to you Mark! Yes - I accept the organisers have to put in a great deal of effort - and are just as down-hearted as the exhibitors when the weather is terrible. However - many other Scottish shows manage to attract a good number of autojumblers (Moffat/Biggar/Scone/Selkirk) - and to my mind they are a major attraction to the show - and should get to put their stand up FREE! Only genuine autojumble mind - not toffee/dolls/old plates/jewellery and all that stuff !! Well done on the prizes - hope to meet up with you again in less miserable weather circumstances - and have a good look at your excellent Van and Pick-up.

Post by **badobsession** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:20 pm

yes good to meet you at last
we are going to selkirk show
sun better shine this time lol
see you then
mark..

also trying to get a club stand at the new CULZEAN AUTOCLASSICA
on the weekend of the 21st 22nd and 23rd september if anyone is interested let me know .
so far 5 cars.

club stand only on the sunday 23rd.