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Pistons to rods

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Anyone got a well proven method for fitting 1275 pistons to the rods ?
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Post by youngun »

Gudegeon pin? (funny guy!!)

Is there a difference in size to the standards then?
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I was going to say "obviously with a gudgeon pin" - but then I thought - nah, the Minor lads won't be so daft as to say that - that's what I expect on the Mini forum!! I was wrong again - I guess.
All standard size.
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Post by picky »

a hammer. a big one.

find somewhere/someone with a really big press, I think is the only method likely to be successful.

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Post by Matt »

Im getting a machine shop to do mine, dont want to risk breaking the pistons!
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Post by Matt »

Oh incidently, according to AC Dodd the hole should be 11thou smaller in dia. than the pin!
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Post by bmcecosse »

Don't know anyone competent to do it - and doubt they would anyway unless supplying the pistons and doing the rebore! It's going to have to be DIY for me.
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Post by GAS »

I got Arthur Smith(Smith engineering)in Coatbridge to fit mine.As he supplied the new pistons.Don't know what he would charge just for fitting.(I know every penny is a prisoner BMC :wink: )
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Post by bmcecosse »

I know Smith Co well - his Dad did my cranks etc many moons ago when I was competing with Minis. Snag is I already have good pistons - I doubt he will touch the job unless he supplies the pistons etc. Every penny is indeed double locked and accounted for!!
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Post by youngun »

bmcecosse wrote:I was going to say "obviously with a gudgeon pin" - but then I thought - nah, the Minor lads won't be so daft as to say that - that's what I expect on the Mini forum!! I was wrong again - I guess.
All standard size.
Guess you dont know me then :wink:

Seriously though, why are they a pain to fit?
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Post by bigginger »

They're press fit, unilke the 1098 which just push through.
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Post by youngun »

Isnt it possible to just turn down the pin so its no longer an interference fit?
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I kind of imagine that it is for a reason :D
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Post by Redmoggy »

Recon its always best to ask.
Had a machine shop fit mine for a tenner and i supplied the pistons. Tried to press the old ones out and the piston disstorted before the pin moved!
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Post by Packedup »

Heat the piston freeze the pin? Probably still won't just drop in, but should be a lot easier to "ease" in.
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Post by Kevin »

Oh incidently, according to AC Dodd the hole should be 11thou smaller in dia. than the pin!
Thats quite a bit for an interference fit :o
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Post by bmcecosse »

The gudgeon pin is a slide fit in the piston - but tight interference in the con rod ! Yes - heating the rod and freezing the pin (although that makes relatively little difference) is the way to go - just wondered HOW to go about it! Can the rods just be heated up in the oven (when Mrs bmc is away of course) - or do I need to fire up the acetylene torch!! I have pressed pins out in the past using a DIY version of the special tool shown in the manuals - without damaging the pistons - but it's a hard game
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Post by picky »

my bench vice says "3 ton" on the side of it, its not a particularly special one. Maybe if you heated the little end with the torch, and then tried to squeeze it all together in a vice with a scaffold pole on the handle! maybe setup the torch held still to heat the rod as you tighten the vice?

food for thought...

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Post by Matt »

That wont work picky... the pin needs to be pressed in without putting any real load on the piston!
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Post by Matt »

BMC, have you got a pic of the special tool?
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